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05-05-2007, 09:09 PM
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Can't agree with you. Skating in this sense is about going fast. The difference lies more in what you call fast (e.g. with the puck, in game speed, fastest lap, top speed, acceleration). I don't think the term "greatest skater" has anything to do with how elegant and effortless you make it look.
Far as I can tell John Flyers Fan made no mention of elegance or effort. Merely that speed isn't the be all end all of skating.

There are turns, stopping, balance, strength, etc...

Being a fast skater means absolutely nothing if you can't turn, handle the puck, and/or get knocked over by a stiff breeze.

For this one, I like Fedorov.

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05-05-2007, 09:33 PM
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Can't agree with you. Skating in this sense is about going fast. The difference lies more in what you call fast (e.g. with the puck, in game speed, fastest lap, top speed, acceleration). I don't think the term "greatest skater" has anything to do with how elegant and effortless you make it look.
Skating isn't just about going fast.

It's speed, quickness, agility, acceleration, balance, etc. etc.

A guy like Eric Desjardins didn't have the great top end speed like a Sami Kapanen, but Desjardins was a brilliant skater.

The four guys I mentioned could do it all.

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05-05-2007, 09:55 PM
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Skating isn't just about going fast.

It's speed, quickness, agility, acceleration, balance, etc. etc.

A guy like Eric Desjardins didn't have the great top end speed like a Sami Kapanen, but Desjardins was a brilliant skater.

The four guys I mentioned could do it all.
Speed, quickness, agility and acceleration all goes into what I said about what you call fast, the main motive of all these abilities is still to go from point A to point B as quickly as possible. But you're right, balance to me is not in that same category but it's not what I call great skaters by. Balance is just an ability that in the end makes them better players.

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05-05-2007, 10:14 PM
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Speed, quickness, agility and acceleration all goes into what I said about what you call fast, the main motive of all these abilities is still to go from point A to point B as quickly as possible. But you're right, balance to me is not in that same category but it's not what I call great skaters by. Balance is just an ability that in the end makes them better players.
All the things above aren't the same and aren't all related to speed.

Bure was as fastest as anyone ever in a straight line from goal lien to blue line, but Fedorov was a better all-around skater. Not quite the accceleration or top end speed, but Fedorov was shiftier, more solid on his skates, could skate backwards like a defenseman etc. etc.

Gretzky wasn't fast, but he was one of the best skaters in the world during the 80's. Nobody could stop, cut, turn like Gretzky could.

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05-05-2007, 11:09 PM
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Yvan Cournoyer has to be up there.

He was the roadrunner !

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05-06-2007, 09:55 AM
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Orr made everyone around him look slow and uncordinated he was just simply that good

Cournoyer had breathtaking speed. Watch the goal he got in Game 2 of the Summit Series, he just made everyone look ponderous

No one has mentioned Gilbert Perreault yet. He was a fast skater but even more so a beautiful smooth skater. It wasa joy to watch him

Lafleur made everythng look easy

Coffey might very well be the greatest skater ever. He was so smooth and it looked like hewasnt going fast at times until you looked at everyone around him, top-nothc speed

Fedorov if you want to compare him I'd put him with Perreault but just a bit faster

As of today, its hard to say anone is a better skater han Niedermayer. He's smooth and fast

Gartner and Bure both had blinding speed, but had more of a choppy motion when it came to skating. That being siad no one could catch them on a breakaway. Kariya too, was/is choppy. In his prime though he had the jets more so

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05-06-2007, 01:14 PM
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russ courtnall could skate like the wind

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05-07-2007, 11:51 AM
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As Herb Brooks said it:
"Doing skating drills with Reijo Ruotsalainen is like teaching Picasso how to paint."
Have you seen some of Picasso's paintings, especially later in his life?

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05-07-2007, 12:04 PM
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Gotta give props to Mike Gartner.
I'm glad he was mentioned so quickly. Talk about wheels.

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05-07-2007, 04:08 PM
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Gene Carr.

According to many observers the fastest NHL skater may well have been Gene Carr (son of Leafs great Red Carr). A number of pundits have chosen him over such flyers as Cournoyer and Orr. I saw Gene play a number of times over the years and I would have to agree.

Gene was drafted 4th overall by the Blues in 1971. He was injured badly in a car accident after his second year after a trade to the Rangers and was never the same again sustaining severe head and back injuries when the cab he was in was hit in NYC.

Another incredibly fast skater was Willie O'Ree - the first black NHL'er. I saw him play in the old Western Hockey League (after his NHL career) with the Los Angeles Blades and San Diego Gulls. He could just flat out fly.
If I'm not mistaken... Carr holds the record for fastest goal from the start of a playoff game. It was something like 6 seconds and he did with the Kings. I've seen the clip a long time ago and it was basically him splitting the d and scoring right off the draw.

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05-07-2007, 04:11 PM
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"The Russian Rocket" was a top of the line dangler too. He could really pull that ***** out. I give this to him.

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Coffey and Bure were the two best.

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Guy LaFleur

No question (maybe I'm just being bias because one of the scouts in the area compared me to Guy LaFleur on how swift and fluent I skate)


jo Ruotsalainen of course actually.

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05-07-2007, 06:34 PM
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Bobby Orr
Sergei Fedorov
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05-08-2007, 02:07 PM
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im curious as to where sid might rank here. i feel as though his speed is terribly underrated...and his balance/ shiftiness/ athleticism are world class.


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05-09-2007, 04:20 PM
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[QUOTE=NativeHockey77;9184865]actually Guy Lafuer has the highest clocked NHL skating speed, Bure came 2nd. they both came within decimals of eachother in 30 mph but Lafluer was a bit faster[/QUOTI've never heard of anything like this. Hull was clocked at 29.4 MPH in the 60's. Lafleur was never even close to that kind of speed (and I really liked the Flower!). Guy had great acceleration and very good top-end speed, but he wasn't THAT fast! I think Gaborik would blow him away these days, let alone Bure.

There are lots of FAST skaters, but not that many GREAT skaters. Fedorov or Bure or Coffey to me are the best of all-time not named Orr. They could do anything on skates and at a ridiculously high speed.

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05-09-2007, 04:36 PM
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There is a difference between greatest skater and fastest skater.

The four best skaters I've ever seen in no particular order: Slava Fetisov, Sergei Fedorov, Paul Coffey and Scott Neidermayer.
I'm sure your a great hockey fan, but how can you leave Bobby Orr out of the best skaters ever? Just wondering?

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05-10-2007, 01:22 AM
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Hands down its Denis Savard.

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Bobby Hull was the fastest ever. clocked at over 29MPH.
Hull wasn't even the fastest on his team. Ask him about Doug Mohns.

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05-10-2007, 07:39 PM
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I'm sure your a great hockey fan, but how can you leave Bobby Orr out of the best skaters ever? Just wondering?
I never saw Orr at his healthy best other than on tape.

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Guy Lafleur, Bobby Orr, Denis Savard, Sergei Fedorov and Mike Modano are my top-5 when it comes to the fast-smooth-effortless trifecta.

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Guy Lafleur, Bobby Orr, Denis Savard, Sergei Fedorov and Mike Modano are my top-5 when it comes to the fast-smooth-effortless trifecta.

For all-around pure great skating, this is a pretty good list. Maybe add Gilbert Perreault, and it would be my list of BEST skaters (not necessarily FASTEST) of the past 50 years.

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russ courtnall could skate like the wind
he was so fast the puck got scared, stayed in one place... and he'd over skate it...



every time.

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