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02-25-2004, 01:39 PM
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Where do you see the Flames exactly five years from now?

Assuming the NHL sorts itself out and there is some kind of system where you get to keep your players when they start to cost real money


Players I see on the roster:

Iginla
Kobasew
Nystrom
Saprykin
Lombardi
Phaneuf
Regehr
Leopold

I think these are the eight guys we should concentrate on building our team around. What do you think?

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until someone else proves otherwise....I'd add Kiprusoff to that list

early 30s still young-ish for a goalie

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02-25-2004, 01:45 PM
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very true....goalies develop later than other guys...I hope he is but honestly I don't think it's reasonable to expect him to continue as he has been playing....plus Calgary is not exactly the greatest environment to be a goalie.

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How long is Kipper signed for beyond this year, and how much will he make next year? I really hope he's signed for next year.

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For some weird reason I can see Amonte in a flames jersey...dont ask me how

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How long is Kipper signed for beyond this year, and how much will he make next year? I really hope he's signed for next year.
I'm 95% sure that he is a restricted free agent after this year. I recall the Sharks signing him to a 1-year deal before this season, and I remember it being said when he was traded to Calgary. He makes 900 000 this season and will probably go to arbitration in the summer.

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Five years is much to far to attempt to project into the future. Take a look back at trends with all NHL clubs to see how much roster turnover takes place, just in three years. That said, if his injury history doesn't jeopardize his career, you'd want Blair Betts centering the third line after Stephane Yelle moves on. You'd also need a big, bruising power forward between now and then.

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02-26-2004, 11:29 AM
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five years

just look at the flames five years ago;

Stillman-Cassels-Bure
Corbet-Savard-Iginla
Wiemer-Shantz-Nazarov

Morris-Smith
Housley-Hulse
Simpson-Gauthier

Brathwaite
Wregget

Also had a couple bums named JS Giguere and Martin St. Louis

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02-26-2004, 12:51 PM
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That's exactly my point though. All the bad teams had completely different teams five years ago. Funny how the good teams look quite the same....eg Colorado and NJ

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That's exactly my point though. All the bad teams had completely different teams five years ago. Funny how the good teams look quite the same....eg Colorado and NJ
You may want to double check those teams as well especially Colorado.

More turnover than you think. Outside of the obvious guys (Tanguay, Hejduk, Foote, Sakic, Forsberg) they've turned over pretty much the whole team.

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02-26-2004, 01:40 PM
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Well obviously they added Selanne Kariya Morris Blake Konowalchuk etc....

half a team is reasonable for a five year period. Colorado built their team around Forsberg Sakic and Foote.....we need to do the same thing

Other than Gauthier, who probably won't be around much longer (mind you people have been saying that for years).....Iginla is the only player still around five years later. This isn't basketball, you can't build your team around one guy.

What we need to do is keep our young guys like Lombardi, Kobasew, Leopold, Saprykin....develop guys like Ramholt, Phaneuf, and Nystrom....and actually let these guys develop like we did Iginla. Iginla we got in a 1995 trade and didn't bring him up until the playoffs in 1996......then it was four seasons until he broke out. Calgary gives up on guys far too early IMO, just look at Giguere and St. Louis, two superstars in the league today.

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No argument from me. And Sutter seems very intent on keeping his young players so I don't think we have to worry.

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Giguere is only a mediocre goalie when his pads aren't twice his size.

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I don't know why, but I just feel that Saprykin won't be a long-term Flame in my mind. I really do like how he plays when he wants to, but I just feel him getting moved somewhere in the upcoming season (after the lockout).

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Giguere is only a mediocre goalie when his pads aren't twice his size.

I agree with you there buddy but this guy was Hasek-like in the playoffs. Better than Hasek even. He was unreal. Imagine if he played for us, Hasek took a mediocre Buffalo team to the Stanley Cup finals in 99, remember?

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I don't know why, but I just feel that Saprykin won't be a long-term Flame in my mind. I really do like how he plays when he wants to, but I just feel him getting moved somewhere in the upcoming season (after the lockout).

I hope you're wrong. Too often this is the case with young Flames players....St. Louis, Giguere, Walz etc....what do you see us getting back for him? A solid prospect and high pick I would think

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