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04-26-2007, 10:18 AM
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I was almost ready to concede Bacashihua being the Blues backup next season. I now take back that prediction.
My, that's awfully big of you.

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04-26-2007, 10:42 AM
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My, that's awfully big of you.
Well I honestly was starting to believe Bacashihua was going to be the backup next season. He was playing well to end the season, both in the NHL and the AHL. Sanford looked no his way out. So it was starting to look like that was the most logical conclusion to reach. However now this signing happens now, which changes everything.

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I saw this over on the prospects board under the Undrafted FA title and it says the Blues are rumored to be close to signing Goalie Jonas Hiller of HC Davos, he's 6'2 174 and dob is 12/2/82 and he was Swiss goalie of the year. If this is accurated this is a real head-scratcher, but value is value I guess. can anyone confirm this?
There would be too much of a goaltender log jam in The Blues' system if Hiller were brought to North America, without a plan to jettison Sanford and, either Cash or CBT. I see Hiller as pegged for Peoria. probably better to have Schwarz be the number 1 in The AHL, rather than back-up in St. Louis. But they'd have the flexibility to have Schwarz in either place with Hiller as back-up in Peoria.

I really believe that The Blues will try to package Cash and a defenceman (Bäckman or Salvadore), along with a draft choice, to pick up a quality young scoring forward. If so, and Sanford is dumped off, there would be room for Hiller. I don't think CBT's error in dealing with the police is a factor in Hiller's signing.

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04-26-2007, 09:21 PM
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I think people are giving short shrift to the shoot-two-into-the-sun plan.

(If we can't get a good offer, that is.)

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As of May 7, Hiller has not been officially signed to an NHL contract.


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05-09-2007, 03:41 AM
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Hiller said that he'll look into the offers after the WC. It's said that several NHL-teams are very interested in signing him, but only the Blues are known. Andy Murray said yesterday again (in an interview with Swiss television) that they will offer Hiller a contract for sure.

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05-10-2007, 04:42 PM
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From The Hockey News website

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Jonas Hiller may not be a household name but Canada has good reason to take the Swiss goaltender seriously at the IIHF World Hockey Championship.

Hiller supplanted David Aebischer to grab the starting job for Switzerland at the tournament and has been among the best goalies in the competition.

If the Swiss are to pull off an upset over Canada in Thursday's quarter-final game (8:15 a.m. ET), he'll have to play a starring role.
From the read of this, if the Blues land him you can probably kiss two goalies good-bye.


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It seems that Hiller's signing might be an indication that Bacashiua or CBT might go in a trade package with Bäckman or Salvadore and maybe a relatively high draft choice for a proven young NHL scoring forward. I hope so. The Blues will need such a trade to get the 2nd top six forward, as they will likely only be able to sign one UFA top-tier forward.

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05-11-2007, 03:13 PM
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It seems that Hiller's signing might be an indication that Bacashiua or CBT might go in a trade package with Bäckman or Salvadore and maybe a relatively high draft choice for a proven young NHL scoring forward. I hope so. The Blues will need such a trade to get the 2nd top six forward, as they will likely only be able to sign one UFA top-tier forward.
I'm not sure how you got ALL OF THAT from a Hiller signing. I'd agree that it appears that at least one of them are on the way out.

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05-11-2007, 06:03 PM
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How does anybody get anything out of any of this? It's a rumor, there is no official Blue's declaration of Hillers signing, just a rumor. How anyone can start making conjectures as to how the team will deal with their existing goalies, based on what amount to manure, is beyond me. This is not intelligent discourse.

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How does anybody get anything out of any of this? It's a rumor, there is no official Blue's declaration of Hillers signing, just a rumor. How anyone can start making conjectures as to how the team will deal with their existing goalies, based on what amount to manure, is beyond me. This is not intelligent discourse.
Well, since Hiller has seemingly replaced Aebischer as the top Swiss goalie, his signing would be more than just depth reasons. He'd have a legitimate chance to be the Blues' future goalie(granted Schwarz has that mantle at the moment, but it's never bad to have options).

Long story short, if Hiller signs, he's competing with Legace for the starting job next year.

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I'm not sure how you got ALL OF THAT from a Hiller signing. I'd agree that it appears that at least one of them are on the way out.
First of all, my quote said MIGHT be an indication that Bacashiua might be traded, OR CBT might be traded. I didn't imply that The Blues intend to get rid of BOTH goalies.

Of course, as Hiller hasn't signed yet, I meant that IF The Blues really will try to sign Hiller, it might mean that they are already planning to make such a trade for a forward, and feel (based on their target trade partner's needs) that one of their young goalies is an essential part of the package, necessary to obtain the forward they covet.

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Hiller has been signed by Anaheim, and has been confirmed at eurohockey.net/transfers.


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if Hiller was more concerned with winning than money or playing time.....can't say i blame him. which team is still playing, again???

it's a much easier sell when your team goes deep into the playoffs...not to mention having the 2 headed D-monster that will be playing in front of him in Anaheim...that's got to be a nice comfort.

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It disapoints me a bit, I wanted to see what he could do. But this also means we might have to hold on to Sanford or Bacashihua to backup Legace, unless we go after a backup goalie in the free agent market, which is pretty thin on talent (Caron, Markkanen, Garon, Burke, Dunham). Schwarz is a possibility, but I think he'll get another year in the AHL.

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It disapoints me a bit, I wanted to see what he could do. But this also means we might have to hold on to Sanford or Bacashihua to backup Legace, unless we go after a backup goalie in the free agent market, which is pretty thin on talent (Caron, Markkanen, Garon, Burke, Dunham). Schwarz is a possibility, but I think he'll get another year in the AHL.
I agree. I think Blues' management will want Schwarz starting in The AHL, so he can develop his game more. Even if they move Cash in a package trade, to get their value high enough to return a good, young scoring forward, they can always resign Sanford to a one-year deal. He probably won't get other NHL offers in the mean time. If, somehow he"s not available, they should be able to sign an adequate backup (there should be a few around).

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I just have the feeling that if the Blues get rid of Cash, he will develop into a stud goalie for someone else...

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05-27-2007, 10:24 AM
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I just have the feeling that if the Blues get rid of Cash, he will develop into a stud goalie for someone else...
Maybe but if you have Legace and Marek behind him, Legace signed for 2 years, if Cash is the extra value you may need then if your the Blues I think you do it. One thing have have is a depth overall in the net. People view both Marek and BB as future franchise goalies. I like to think the hard part would be deciding which one of those 2 to trade when the time comes.
I myself love Bishops size and style (6'5" Butterfly). I mean he's on his knees and you still covers the net top to bottom.

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Maybe but if you have Legace and Marek behind him, Legace signed for 2 years, if Cash is the extra value you may need then if your the Blues I think you do it. One thing have have is a depth overall in the net. People view both Marek and BB as future franchise goalies. I like to think the hard part would be deciding which one of those 2 to trade when the time comes.
I myself love Bishops size and style (6'5" Butterfly). I mean he's on his knees and you still covers the net top to bottom.
Well, Schwarz should have either proven or disproven his potential by then (at least to an extent to make a judgement).

If the organization believes that those two are the 2 of the future then you play Schwarz and bring Bishop up eventually and have a Nabakov/Toskala or ANA duo type of situation. I don't see any reason to trade on off until we know which one is better.

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You can never have too many blue chip goaltending prospects in the pipeline when you've never won a Cup.

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You can never have too many blue chip goaltending prospects in the pipeline when you've never won a Cup.
Having ever won a cup has nothing to do with it. You can never have too many blue chip goaltending prospects .

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if Hiller was more concerned with winning than money or playing time.....can't say i blame him. which team is still playing, again???
Of course, if you can play on a team that's in the Finals this year and will pay you $850,000 if you're in the NHL with the chance to earn another $2.35 million in bonuses (like Anaheim is going to do for '07-08), that's even better.

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Well, Schwarz should have either proven or disproven his potential by then (at least to an extent to make a judgement).

If the organization believes that those two are the 2 of the future then you play Schwarz and bring Bishop up eventually and have a Nabakov/Toskala or ANA duo type of situation. I don't see any reason to trade on off until we know which one is better.
Please see the "when the time comes" at the end of my first paragraph. Never said we trade either of one Schwarz and BB now.

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Please see the "when the time comes" at the end of my first paragraph. Never said we trade either of one Schwarz and BB now.
Right and my point is that when the time comes, we'll have seen them enough to know which one is closer to a "shutdown" goalie. My post wasn't meant as a direct refute of your post.

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