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03-01-2004, 07:45 PM
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Ribeiro is portugese, I had no idea Manny Malhotra was 1/2 East Indian 1/2 white exactly like I am, I always thought he was black or at least half black.
Ribeiro is portuguese damn i have to like him now, I am as well.Any other portguese players playing in the nhl


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Korea-South-East Asia.
Not to nit pick, but Korea is not a South East Asian country. Closer to Northern China, Mongolia, Siberia, etc than Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, etc.

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03-01-2004, 07:58 PM
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what's part asian? doesn't the word 'caucasian' refer to the first evidence of what we now call 'white' people, first distinguishing themselves as a separate identity in central asia?

even sub-caucasian groups such as aryans, etc. all 'hail' from central asia somewhere. concidience of the century - medieval chinese referred to the tartan-wearing whites on the other side of the gobi as wiggers! (i can't make this stuff up!)

incidentally i remember when belarus upset sweden (and destroyed tommy salo forever!) there was a sidebar news story that gretzky's grandfather/great-grandfather (basiclly his name - i can't remember) came over to canada he was from belarus. might have been white russia / russia back then...
I'm pretty sure he meant East Asian and in part, Asian Indians. But hey, if we're going strictly on continent, we can add Ramzi Abid to the list.

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Anders Ericksson looks like he's part asian.

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I'm pretty sure he meant East Asian and in part, Asian Indians. But hey, if we're going strictly on continent, we can add Ramzi Abid to the list.
what i was getting at, Von Shark, is that ethnicity is a pretty academic thing, it's not like people never emigrated anywhere before the creation of north america.

lots of russians novosibirsk -> east have less 'white' more 'asian' blood for example. at least all the mob's girlfriends on russianbrides.com!

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Not to nit pick, but Korea is not a South East Asian country. Closer to Northern China, Mongolia, Siberia, etc than Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, etc.
You re right. I shouldn't have used South-East Asia term. Wasn't sure how to distinguish it from Asia as in X-stan, near-east..

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Robin Bawa played for the canucks is of east indian decent

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what's part asian? doesn't the word 'caucasian' refer to the first evidence of what we now call 'white' people, first distinguishing themselves as a separate identity in central asia?

even sub-caucasian groups such as aryans, etc. all 'hail' from central asia somewhere. concidience of the century - medieval chinese referred to the tartan-wearing whites on the other side of the gobi as wiggers! (i can't make this stuff up!)

incidentally i remember when belarus upset sweden (and destroyed tommy salo forever!) there was a sidebar news story that gretzky's grandfather/great-grandfather (basiclly his name - i can't remember) came over to canada he was from belarus. might have been white russia / russia back then...

You're correct in saying that Gretzky's forefathers are from Belarus...and if I remember correctly, Gretzky wasn't even aware of it until somebody dug the info out.

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03-01-2004, 10:40 PM
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I thought I saw something on TV saying Gretzky was of Polish heritage. Perhaps, his forefathers came from Belarus and passed through Poland or he has both Belarus and Polish blood?

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I don't know where did you get this information, but is wrong, totally!
Not exactly, genius.

I'm studying Russian history, and the Mongols occupied Russia, Eastern Europe for almost 2 hundred years. There was marriage between the Asiatic invaders and the people in Kievan Rus, so it's totally feasible that there's some Asian composition in Slavic people. There are lots of Asian/Turkic looking Russians in the east anyway.

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I thought I saw something on TV saying Gretzky was of Polish heritage. Perhaps, his forefathers came from Belarus and passed through Poland or he has both Belarus and Polish blood?
Belarus had been passed around by Russia, Poland, and Lithuania for centuries. Gretzky's ancestors come from what is now part of Belarus, but back in their time it probably belonged to Poland.

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Anders Ericksson looks like he's part asian.
Good observation. I've been wondering about that for a while too.

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I believe Park was a second round pick by the Penguins. Not a third rounder.

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It may surprise you, but...

One minute to make hockey history.

Believe it or not, the first Asian player to ever play the game was "the other China Clipper", Larry Kwong for the New York Rangers in 1948. Pretty good story about the era and it really gives you an insight about the prevalent racist attitudes back in those days.

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you guys are right. anders eriksson and ilya kovalchuk both look quite asian. maybe they have some asian genes

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... we can add Ramzi Abid to the list.
Abid's father is Tunisian and his mother is Scottish (I believe).

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03-02-2004, 04:39 PM
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Thanks for the clarification. I thought I remember reading his father was from Syria. Guess not.

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Thanks for the clarification. I thought I remember reading his father was from Syria. Guess not.

Kovalchuk does have some asian features ...he looks like he hails from a country like Turkmenistan than Russia.


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This is an interesting topic. I'm 100% chinesse myself but was born in NY and raised in NJ. I think Sergie Brylin looks very asian but I doubt he is. The only full blown asian in the NHL I'm aware of is Richard Park.

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According to Michener's giant books on Eastern Europe ("Russia", "Poland", etc.), the average Slovak, Russian, and Pole is around 10% Asian genetically because of various mixing throughout history, esp. the Mongol conquest of Eastern Europe.

So, I would guess there are a lot of guys who are at least part Asian... including Gretzky, whose ancestry appears to be Polish or Slovakian.

Gretzky is of Belarussian decent.

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Anders Eriksson:

Personally, I think he looks more Asian in the second photo...

Ilya Kovalchuk:


He looks pretty Asian. Also, I believe the root of his last name, 'Koval', is Ukrainian and means something along the lines of 'blacksmith' or 'horse-shoe maker'.

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03-02-2004, 06:19 PM
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He looks pretty Asian. Also, I believe the root of his last name, 'Koval', is Ukrainian and means something along the lines of 'blacksmith' or 'horse-shoe maker'.
off-topic but Kovalchuk looks like Tootoo in your avatar.

And is Eriksson Swedish?

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Anders Eriksson:

Personally, I think he looks more Asian in the second photo...

Ilya Kovalchuk:


He looks pretty Asian. Also, I believe the root of his last name, 'Koval', is Ukrainian and means something along the lines of 'blacksmith' or 'horse-shoe maker'.
I'd say that the "chuck" part of his name is Ukrainian, "Koval" is common in Russian as well as Ukrainian.
In Russian koval is a past tense verb meaning...what you said.

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off-topic but Kovalchuk looks like Tootoo in your avatar.
Now that you mention it...

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And is Eriksson Swedish?
Yes, he is.

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I'd say that the "chuck" part of his name is Ukrainian, "Koval" is common in Russian as well as Ukrainian.
Really? I thought it was the other way around (that 'chuk' was just any old suffix, and 'koval' was Ukrainian). But I have an excuse for not knowing; :p I'm not Russian.

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