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07-05-2007, 04:40 PM
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I really have to disagree with you. OB is living here in Maine, his gf is from here and I've spoken to him numerous times. I've spoken to Burke, Coates and McNab about this too. They had been wanting to send O'Brien to Portland for about a month before they dealt him to TB. The first round pick is what Anaheim wanted for him "if" they had to get rid of him.



The trade came as a result of the fact that they couldn't send O'B to Portland. They wanted Huskins in Anaheim, yes I give you that. Anaheim was very high on Huskins, but the trade was as result of the fact that Anaheim wanted to build up it's goaltending depth and they couldn't send O'Brien to Portland because he would have been taken on a waiver claim. In the perfect world, they would have sent O'B to Portland and recalled Huskins to Anaheim. This is factual because I've heard it from the horses mouth.

Huskins is a quality player and this has nothing to do with that. First off, we have no idea what is going to happen between now and Sept 15th when camp opens.... Based on right what we know right now, the Ducks have a potential of 8 defenseman with Pronger, Schneider, O'Donnell, Beauchemin, Huskins, Kondratiev, Hnidy and god forbid if Niedermayer comes back. I firmly believe that Dipenta will be resigned so that's nine defenseman. It's a numbers game right now.

How much who's contract is has no bearing on who plays where because we only have to look at Chistov, Moran and Green as examples of that...All were eventually dealt or left the team because they weren't with Anaheim.

Huskins is not like that....Kondratiev is and will leave Anaheim if he doesn't make the big club...he has an out in his deal to go back to Russia with SKA St. Peterburg.

To your final point. Tampa Bay carried only 20 players for parts of last year and recalled players from Springfield if they needed them....They didn't have a 7th defenseman at all times of last season.

It depends on what the cap situation is like, but most likely Anaheim will carry 7 defenseman.
Can they carry six with Hnidy as an option as the seventh defenseman as they did with Jason Marshall during 2005-06? I think the Ducks opening day roster had 20 players that season.

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hey i thought hnidy was a rumor
He's signed

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I can believe that they wanted to send O'Brien down to Portland, Burke did say something during the state of the franchise that sometimes he wanted to bite his head off or something.

But I don't understand why he would be waiver eligible. Not that I feel like looking up the table, but that was his rookie season and he's under 25 years old, I don't think there's any way he could have played enough NHL games to be eligible. I thought it was something like 2 years played as a 23 year old.
He was no longer in entry-level deal, he was in his second contract and its pro games, which include the AHL.

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Can they carry six with Hnidy as an option as the seventh defenseman as they did with Jason Marshall during 2005-06? I think the Ducks opening day roster had 20 players that season.
Yes, they can and most likely will.

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Can they carry six with Hnidy as an option as the seventh defenseman as they did with Jason Marshall during 2005-06? I think the Ducks opening day roster had 20 players that season.
Carry six with Hnidy as an option as the seventh? Hnidy's a d-man. He'd be the seventh.

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Carry six with Hnidy as an option as the seventh? Hnidy's a d-man. He'd be the seventh.
He can also play on the offense.

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When Hnidy played in Nashville, he played forward. He can fill a couple of roles with the Ducks.

That's what Arinkrat was referring too.

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He was no longer in entry-level deal, he was in his second contract and its pro games, which include the AHL.
So now I had to look it up, and you're both right and wrong.

If I'm reading it right, the "games played" number is NHL games only. However, the "years played" half of the chart is pro games, including the AHL. And for a 20 year old signing his ELC, he gets 3 years of being exempt. So while it's not technically his being off his 3 year ELC that makes him eligible, in essence it is because most players will play their 20 year old season in the AHL, so eligibility will coincide with expiration of the entry contract. In hindsight we probably should have sent him to the OHL for his overage season.

Which makes the new CHL overage limit restrictive. The players who need the extra year to develop won't be wanted by the club because they'll probably get a better overager. Could lead to an interesting crunch of 23 year old players being claimed by waivers for potential.

Edit: speaking of which... Huskins should be eligible for waivers. Although I guess he always was while we had him. So sending him down to the AHL could be risky.


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Oye! A Rusky!? We don't take kindly to them in this parts. I guess he was signed just in case Ilya is traded, keeping our Russian quota.

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He can also play on the offense.
wow so he could be either

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If Niedermayer comes back I believe Kondratiev will be traded.

If Niedermayer retires he has a shot
Pronger/Schneider
Beauchemin/O'Donnell
Huskins/Kondratiev/Dipenta

Hnidy will be a better version of Jason Marshall.

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If Niedermayer comes back I believe Kondratiev will be traded.
If Niedermayer comes back, a hell of a lot of people are going to be traded.

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If Niedermayer comes back, a hell of a lot of people are going to be traded.
It hurts me to say this. The longer Nieds and Selanne take to decide, the more is going to hurt this team in the long run.

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If Niedermayer comes back I believe Kondratiev will be traded.

If Niedermayer retires he has a shot
Pronger/Schneider
Beauchemin/O'Donnell
Huskins/Kondratiev/Dipenta

Hnidy will be a better version of Jason Marshall.
they signed Dipenta?
never thought a question mark would cause so much chaos
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they signed Dipenta
When did they sign him?

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When did they sign him?
I think he meant to phrase it as a question. A question mark can go a long way.

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I think he meant to phrase it as a question. A question mark can go a long way.
joe is right sorry

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Hey all! The Ducks are Champions!

With this signing of Kondratiev, unless he impresses Burke, I think it is only to lure a team to want to trade a minor league player for him.

A lot of teams would probably want this kid on their team, if he does decent in the first 20 games for the Ducks. He is Russian, and we all know that Burkie doesn't really like Russians.

I say a package with Bryzgolov and this guy is something Burke might try to put together for a trade, possibly 20 games into the season, for a decent return. I don't see this guy being in the long term plans for the Ducks.

That is of course, unless he is the next Beauchemin.

This kinda got lost in the shuffle...the fact that Mighty Adam is back I mean...I know he was a favorite of the Captain from back when.

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