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07-07-2007, 01:57 AM
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he has a two way contract which makes him very valuable. Savvy?

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07-07-2007, 02:34 AM
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Makov, Komisarek, Hamerlik, Streit, Bouillon, Dandeneault, Obyrne and J.P. Coté awaiting for a chance... Thats why I wouldnt be surprised at all if he isnt resigned.. I dont think he has the potential to be more than an average bottom pairing defenseman so I would give OByrne and Coté a chance over him..

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07-07-2007, 02:37 AM
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Makov, Komisarek, Hamerlik, Streit, Bouillon, Dandeneault, Obyrne and J.P. Coté awaiting for a chance... Thats why I wouldnt be surprised at all if he isnt resigned.. I dont think he has the potential to be more than an average bottom pairing defenseman so I would give OByrne and Coté a chance over him..
O'Byrne has bigger upside, I agree, but certainly not Coté. Gorges is 4 years younger.

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07-07-2007, 02:56 AM
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O'Byrne has bigger upside, I agree, but certainly not Coté. Gorges is 4 years younger.
Coté can be a decent #6 defenseman in the NHL and a good #7 to have around, he worked extremmely hard to get his chance and he deserves it to me.. Also he is a french Canadian who would love to wear that jersey... Georges is maybe younger but I just dont see the potential to be more than a decent bottom pairing defenseman.. Georges has better passing skills than Coté but Coté is way more physical and better defensively... Personally, I wouldnt resign Georges.. Coté's work ethic is just too impressive to take a guy like Georges over him..

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07-07-2007, 03:41 AM
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Coté can be a decent #6 defenseman in the NHL and a good #7 to have around, he worked extremmely hard to get his chance and he deserves it to me.. Also he is a french Canadian who would love to wear that jersey... Georges is maybe younger but I just dont see the potential to be more than a decent bottom pairing defenseman.. Georges has better passing skills than Coté but Coté is way more physical and better defensively... Personally, I wouldnt resign Georges.. Coté's work ethic is just too impressive to take a guy like Georges over him..
Have we not learned from the Beauchemin experience not to give up on defencemen too young?

I wasn't saying NOT to keep Coté under contract. I was just suggesting not to give up on a guy 4 years younger than him.

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07-07-2007, 03:50 AM
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Coté can be a decent #6 defenseman in the NHL and a good #7 to have around, he worked extremmely hard to get his chance and he deserves it to me.. Also he is a french Canadian who would love to wear that jersey... Georges is maybe younger but I just dont see the potential to be more than a decent bottom pairing defenseman.. Georges has better passing skills than Coté but Coté is way more physical and better defensively... Personally, I wouldnt resign Georges.. Coté's work ethic is just too impressive to take a guy like Georges over him..
And Coté would be what, top 4 ? really...

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07-07-2007, 08:54 AM
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I'm not a big fan of Gorges.He's too "vanilla" which means that he doesn't have any attribute that makes him stand out.Cube has his big hits and Dandy has his speed while Gorges has......... (some says a good first pass but that's not enough to win me over).Plus he's soft soft soft as hell.

Markov - Komisarek
Hamrlik - Streit
Bouillon - Dandenault

7th & 8th : Cote and O'Byrne and Gorges in the AHL

That's what it should look like imho

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07-07-2007, 09:56 AM
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Makov, Komisarek, Hamerlik, Streit, Bouillon, Dandeneault, Obyrne and J.P. Coté awaiting for a chance... Thats why I wouldnt be surprised at all if he isnt resigned.. I dont think he has the potential to be more than an average bottom pairing defenseman so I would give OByrne and Coté a chance over him..
If you aren't going to re-sign him then why make a QO at all? Since they qualified him, it suggests they want to keep him around one would think.

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07-07-2007, 10:24 AM
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Coté has no really upside and he's slow. I'd rather have Gorges any day of the week over Coté. For O'Byrne I agree this guy has all the tool to be a good defencemen in the NHL.

For Work Ethic i think Gorges is just as good as Coté and I think he brings more leadership. Gorges isnt soft, he just needs to fill out. He likes physical contact and he isnt affraid to get hit, but he isnt big enough to separate the player from the puck in most situation.

Not re-signing him would be stupid. He wont cost much and we'll see at training camp and earlier next year if he can get the job done. Not always easy for a young bottom pairing defencemen to change team and still be effective.

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07-07-2007, 11:24 AM
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Why is Gorges treated as if he doesn't exist for the most part on this board. Whenever our defense is discussed he's rarely mentioned. He seems like a decent prospect to me.

I agree...Gorges was a steady defencemen in San Jose where he had decent numbers..... GP G A P +/- PIM
05-06 49 0 6 6 5 31
06-07 47 1 3 4 -3 26
don't seem that bad for a young defencemen in the NHL.

I really hope he gets a chance to shine in training camp because I would love it if he was able to beat out Bouillon or Dandenault out of their roster spot. He is a better defencemen then both of those guys and he is cheaper and younger too.
But like many people have said, we only seen him for 7 games with the Habs last year so it is hard to judge how good or bad he is. We'll see soon enough.

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07-07-2007, 11:28 AM
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Did Gorges accept his contract extension?

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07-07-2007, 12:03 PM
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Why is Gorges treated as if he doesn't exist for the most part on this board. Whenever our defense is discussed he's rarely mentioned. He seems like a decent prospect to me.

At this stage of his career Gorges adds "depth" to the Habs roster and not much more.

Of course, if his game develops and improves significantly, he can move up the depth charts!

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07-07-2007, 01:04 PM
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I like Gorges.
me too. hes very underrated here, give him more of a chance and see what he can do. i really liked him with san jose

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Coté can be a decent #6 defenseman in the NHL and a good #7 to have around, he worked extremmely hard to get his chance and he deserves it to me.. Also he is a french Canadian who would love to wear that jersey... Georges is maybe younger but I just dont see the potential to be more than a decent bottom pairing defenseman.. Georges has better passing skills than Coté but Coté is way more physical and better defensively... Personally, I wouldnt resign Georges.. Coté's work ethic is just too impressive to take a guy like Georges over him..
Gorges is a former WHL Captain. I'm sure he's worked extremely hard to get his chance as well. He also wasn't drafted.

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07-07-2007, 02:41 PM
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At this stage of his career Gorges adds "depth" to the Habs roster and not much more.

Of course, if his game develops and improves significantly, he can move up the depth charts!
I agree with the sentiment. I, however, also see Cote as a player that adds depth only to the organization. If he ever gets a regular spot on the team, it pretty much means we're in trouble, or haven't properly assessed and addresses our weaknesses. I put O'Byrne only a slight step above him...

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07-07-2007, 02:52 PM
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I agree...Gorges was a steady defencemen in San Jose where he had decent numbers..... GP G A P +/- PIM
05-06 49 0 6 6 5 31
06-07 47 1 3 4 -3 26
don't seem that bad for a young defencemen in the NHL.

I really hope he gets a chance to shine in training camp because I would love it if he was able to beat out Bouillon or Dandenault out of their roster spot. He is a better defencemen then both of those guys and he is cheaper and younger too.
But like many people have said, we only seen him for 7 games with the Habs last year so it is hard to judge how good or bad he is. We'll see soon enough.
You're kind of all over he place here.

In any event, he was good enough to play almost 100 games for a playoff team, hell, he even did well in the playoffs. Why is it that when traded to a non-playoff team, ie. us, he's not good enough to be 7th D?

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07-07-2007, 02:58 PM
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Guys main reason is he has a two way contract, honestly in no way does it mean he will start the season in Montreal. He is an unspectacular defenseman who can maybe become a 5th at best.

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Guys main reason is he has a two way contract, honestly in no way does it mean he will start the season in Montreal. He is an unspectacular defenseman who can maybe become a 5th at best.
Seriously. What was BG gonna do? Give him a one way and have to demote one head of the Dandouillon hydra, which would have to clear waivers, and could be claimed for free? Oh wait, would that have been a bad thing?

But yeah, he's at best a 5th defenseman. So are Dandy and Bouillon though, so which contract are YOU more willing to pay?

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07-07-2007, 03:14 PM
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If you aren't going to re-sign him then why make a QO at all? Since they qualified him, it suggests they want to keep him around one would think.
Well you are right, they qualified him, my bad... But I read in the journal de montreal that he was actually the only one RFA without a contract so I guess he didnt accept the qualifying offer yet.. But knowing its probably a 2-way contract, I wouldnt give him another chance with us just because he is younger than a guy like Coté.. He will have to earn his spot over guys like OByrne and Coté..

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The reason is, he's not too f'g good....

He's super super frail, he makes Streit look like Hulk Hogan.

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The reason is, he's not too f'g good....

He's super super frail, he makes Streit look like Hulk Hogan.
Coming from someone who would wash Streit with his tongue, that carries no weight.

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The reason is, he's not too f'g good....

He's super super frail, he makes Streit look like Hulk Hogan.
He's 22, give him time to put on some weight.

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... just .

I think my favorites are the "soft" comments.

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Coté's work ethic is just too impressive to take a guy like Georges over him..
Oh NHA, you didn't!

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