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At the trade deadline Burke said that he received numerous offers on Toronto players in exchange for a first round pick. I think Burke said he had offers of that on 4 or 5 players, I can't remember. But I can guarantee that one of those players that had a first round pick offered on him was Luke Schenn. Whether various fans like it or not, many GMs in the league would be willing to give up a first rounder for Schenn if the pick would be in the mid to late round range, I doubt many would offer a top 10 or 15 pick for him at this time.
This was very well stated. People on here generally under value players and over value picks.
From a Philly perspective I'd offer up our 1st this year and a prospect. We have some quality 2nd tier prospects at both forward and defense but no real blue chip guys (and no, we aren't trading guys like BS Couturier JVR or Voracek). I know this isn't a great offer for Luke and if I were the Leafs I'd just keep him if that's all I could get for him but it's probably the best offer you'd get from the Flyers. No disrespect intended by this offer but we probably just don't make the best trading partners with the Leafs for Schenn.
no more late 1sts ... if we trade with the Flyers id want something around Simmonds
Man it would be tough to trade Simmonds. He had 27 goals from the 2nd & 3rd line, plays physical and will drop the gloves to protect his teammates. He's the eventual replacent for Hartnell and we don't have anyone like him on the system.
However, I still see L Schenn as a top 4 with top 2 potential. I'd probably have to do it but I certainly wouldn't be adding anything significant. I think it would be a pretty fair trade even up.
Man it would be tough to trade Simmonds. He had 27 goals from the 2nd & 3rd line, plays physical and will drop the gloves to protect his teammates. He's the eventual replacent for Hartnell and we don't have anyone like him on the system.
However, I still see L Schenn as a top 4 with top 2 potential. I'd probably have to do it but I certainly wouldn't be adding anything significant. I think it would be a pretty fair trade even up.
Based on how well Simmonds fits the flyers, I think its more likely JVR goes the other way.
You are awfully stubborn. Or else just not too bright. There is no direct comparison to the 2.
Oh i agree there is no direct comparison to the 2. One is a level above the other.
I was just replying back to where you said that P.k is a 40 pt player at best because he has never proven to be more than that but you than remind everyone about that Schenn as a 23 yr old has time to improve.
I guess the guy that is 6 month older can't improve. P.K well past his prime.
On Schenn. Please no trolling on this question as we all seem to get involved a bit to much.
I know it has been asked before but would the Leafs consider this.
Schenn,+5th overall+ 2nd rd pick 35th i think
for
Weber + 3rd overall.
On Schenn. Please no trolling on this question as we all seem to get involved a bit to much.
I know it has been asked before but would the Leafs consider this.
Schenn,+5th overall+ 2nd rd pick 35th i think
for
Weber + 3rd overall.
I don't think the difference between the 3rd and the 5th pick is Schenn+35th. Burke would rather hold onto Schenn in my opinion.
On Schenn. Please no trolling on this question as we all seem to get involved a bit to much.
I know it has been asked before but would the Leafs consider this.
Schenn,+5th overall+ 2nd rd pick 35th i think
for
Weber + 3rd overall.
From a Habs perspective I would consider Schenn and Toronto's 1st pick for Weber and our 1st pick.
I think Forsberg or Galchenyuk make it to 5th, and I see Schenn pairing with Subban as an interesting experiment.
I don't like the trade even though i wouldn't mind Schenn
plus I don't see your pairing happening, doesn't Schenn play right defense like Subban??? i don't see how you guys come up with these combos without taking stuff like this in consideration
Schenn woul probably eventually make a good paring with Beaulieu
Rights to Webber (PMD Depth, RFA) Ellis (HF 7.0 C, should play pro next year) 1st 2013 (Likely 10-20 and a good draft year) Nash 2nd 2013 (Likely 45-55)
An overpaid bottom pairing dman with good shut down skills but no offensive upside?
Mid 2nd rounder. Tops.
he had over 20 points the past 2 seasons. id hardly say he no offensive upside. he probably wont ever come near 40 points but i think high 20s and possibly 30 is extremely possible. if you can get 20+ points out of your defensive defenseman id say your doing pretty good. id classify komisarek as having no offensive upside, not schenn.
to offer a mid 2nd is pretty offensive. you might as well tell leafs fans to **** themselves while your at it.
schenn is a young defenseman who at the age of 22 already has 4 years of nhl experience under his belt. in contrast, gardiner at the same age has just completed his 1st season.
burke might trade schenn but if he does it would be because he has value and is needed to upgrade another position of need (ie: center), not for a mid 2nd round pick.
An overpaid bottom pairing dman with good shut down skills but no offensive upside?
Mid 2nd rounder. Tops.
This is why i hate when threads like these are made Last year the whole boards along with Leaf fans were praising him (no I'm not exaggerating look at his re-signing thread) and after 1 bad season (which wasn't even as bad as everyone makes it out to be) he is worthless..... Get a clue.
Man it would be tough to trade Simmonds. He had 27 goals from the 2nd & 3rd line, plays physical and will drop the gloves to protect his teammates. He's the eventual replacent for Hartnell and we don't have anyone like him on the system.
However, I still see L Schenn as a top 4 with top 2 potential. I'd probably have to do it but I certainly wouldn't be adding anything significant. I think it would be a pretty fair trade even up.
Yea I think its pretty even straight up. Leafs really lack a player like Simmonds ... As you said I'm not sure that you guys give up Simms (or if Burke gives up Schenn)
Maybe JVR but something would have to be added. Imho Simmonds > JVR.
Rights to Webber (PMD Depth, RFA) Ellis (HF 7.0 C, should play pro next year) 1st 2013 (Likely 10-20 and a good draft year) Nash 2nd 2013 (Likely 45-55)
Nope.
Schenn won't be moved for a package like that.
One bad season isn't enough to drive his value as far down as some people are saying.
I'm expecting a bounce back under a coach who encourages physicality, and actually knows what the defensive zone looks like.
Rights to Webber (PMD Depth, RFA) Ellis (HF 7.0 C, should play pro next year) 1st 2013 (Likely 10-20 and a good draft year) Nash 2nd 2013 (Likely 45-55)
Hahaha I thought you meant Nashville instead of MTL
But I might do that just for that 1st.
Not a fan of Weber and don't know nothing about Ellis. How about 2013 1st + nash 2013 2nd + Moen ?
*im hoping that MTL plays the same way they did this year ... Or else leafs get ****ed lol. Its risky.
get serious
Last year the whole boards along with Leaf fans were praising him (no I'm not exaggerating look at his re-signing thread) and after 1 bad season (which wasn't even as bad as everyone makes it out to be) he is worthless..... Get a clue.
