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HFBoards Ranks: The Top 50 Books from 1800-1900 *List posted on #69 & #72*

View Poll Results: Who was the better 19th Century Author?
Lev Nikolayevich "Leo" Tolstoy 6 28.57%
Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoyevsky 15 71.43%
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02-14-2014, 11:00 PM
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1. The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, by Arthur Conan Doyle
2. War and Peace, by Leo Tolstoy
3. Crime and Punishment, by Fyodor Dostoevsky
4. The Three Musketeers, by Alexandre Dumas
5. The Idiot, by Fyodor Dostoevsky
6. A Sentimental Education, by Gustave Flaubert
7. Pride and Prejudice, by Jane Austen
8. A Tale of Two Cities, by Charles Dickens
9. Moby Dick, by Herman Melville
10. Alice in Wonderland, by Lewis Carroll
11. Portrait of a Lady, by Henry James
12. A Doll’s House, by Henrik Ibsen
13. Dracula, by Bram Stoker
14. Dr. Jeykll and Mr. Hyde, by Robert Lewis Stevenson
15. The War of the Worlds, by H. G. Wells

I love Mark Twain's travel writing--An Innocent Abroad, A Tramp Abroad, Roughing It--but they fall outside the scope of the rules otherwise one or two would have made the list.

And thanks from me, as well.

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02-14-2014, 11:09 PM
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I wish I read more, I wish I was a better reader, and frankly I wish I had more time to do it. I basically rotate between Stephen King and Mario Puzo and knock out 400 pages every 3 months or so.

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02-15-2014, 12:10 AM
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9) The Red Badge of Courage - Crane
8) 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea - Verne
7) The Scarlet Letter - Hawthorne
6) The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Twain/Clemens
5) The Three Musketeers - Dumas
4) The Picture of Dorian Gray - Wilde
3) The Tell-Tale Heart and Other Writings - Poe
2) The War of the Worlds - Wells
1) Count of Monte Cristo - Dumas

Practically all of them were read between 5th and 12th grade; the only recent reads are the Dumas works. Count of Monte Cristo is one of my favorite books overall; Dantes is not a man you want to annoy, inconvenience, or piss off .

I left the 10th blank spot because while there are quite a few books I could have chosen, I just did not value any of them over the other. I didn't want to skew the voting by just throwing something on there to fill the last spot.

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02-15-2014, 12:57 AM
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Many thanks to Richard F Schiller for the work, very interesting indeed.
Small notes:
1. Was a little surprised Alice didn't make top-10 and extremely surprised that The Hunting of the Snark didn't make even top-50
2. I didn't mention Sherlock Holmes' stories because the whole series finishes at XX century. Probably, it was my mistake and Adventures might get one more list
3. Always considered Walden as non-fiction

My list:
1. In the Ravine and Other Stories by Anton Chekhov
2. Eugene Onegin. A. Pushkin.
3. A Hero of Our Time. M. Lermontov
4. The Hunting of the Snark. L. Carroll
5. Moby Dick. H. Melville
6. Alice books (Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There). L. Carroll
7. The Three Musketeers. A.Dumas
8. The Cossacks. L.Tolstoy
9. The Brothers Karamazov. F. Dostoyevsky
10. Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District. N.Leskov
11. War and Peace. L.Tolstoy
12. The Gambler. F.Dostoyevsky

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02-15-2014, 01:40 AM
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Thanks Richard. I think Crime and Punishment is his best book. I forgot about Dumas & Frankenstein, otherwise they would have filled out my top 10 which would have looked like this.

1. The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, by Arthur Conan Doyle
2. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
3. Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe
4. Alice in Wonderland, by Lewis Carroll
5. Dracula, by Bram Stoker
6. Dr. Jeykll and Mr. Hyde, by Robert Lewis Stevenson
7. The War of the Worlds, by H. G. Wells
8. The Count of Monte Cristo (1844) - Alexandre Dumas
9. The Three Musketeers (1844) - Alexandre Dumas
10. Frankenstein (1818) - Mary Shelley

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One author I'm surprised didn't make the list was Henry James. He might be the "greatest" author that wrote in English during the 19th century. I only got one submission for him (Portrait of a Lady) that wasn't my own. In literary circles, he's one of the few universally loved authors (well I guess Cormac McCarthy doesn't like him...). The Turn of the Screw was the best work of "supernatural element" I've ever read and it's highly clever. The novella reads like a typical ghost story initially, but for re-readers they generally realize that the ghost story is merely a decoy for the actual story - a story about sexual repression in the Victorian Era.

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02-15-2014, 06:13 AM
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1. Goblin Market - Christina Rossetti
2. Goethe's Faust - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
3. Walden - Henry David Thoreau
4. Heart of Dakness - Joseph Conrad
5. The Brothers Karamazov - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
6. Salome - Oscar Wilde
7. Journey to the Center of the Earth - Jules Verne
8. The Scarlet Letter - Nathaniel Hawthorne
9. The Wood Beyond the World - William Morris
10. The Idiot - Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Not surprised to see Brothers at the time. It is perhaps the greatest book ever written. It's just not one that I always enjoy.

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02-15-2014, 06:26 AM
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Thanks Richard. I think Crime and Punishment is his best book. I forgot about Dumas & Frankenstein, otherwise they would have filled out my top 10 which would have looked like this.

1. The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, by Arthur Conan Doyle
2. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
3. Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe
4. Alice in Wonderland, by Lewis Carroll
5. Dracula, by Bram Stoker
6. Dr. Jeykll and Mr. Hyde, by Robert Lewis Stevenson
7. The War of the Worlds, by H. G. Wells
8. The Count of Monte Cristo (1844) - Alexandre Dumas
9. The Three Musketeers (1844) - Alexandre Dumas
10. Frankenstein (1818) - Mary Shelley
The thing about the Brothers K, is that it essentially contains all his ideas from his other books.

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The thing about the Brothers K, is that it essentially contains all his ideas from his other books.
Yeah, I've talk to some professors about the Brothers K, and all of them have said that The Brothers was a "finale" that answered many questions from his previous novels - particularly Crime and Punishment (it was almost like a sequel to C & P). And apparently, he was writing a sequel to The Brothers K afterwards that was supposed to be about Aloysha's adult life, but he died before he could finish it (there are many notes that he wrote about it though).

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1. Goblin Market - Christina Rossetti
2. Goethe's Faust - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
3. Walden - Henry David Thoreau
4. Heart of Dakness - Joseph Conrad
5. The Brothers Karamazov - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
6. Salome - Oscar Wilde
7. Journey to the Center of the Earth - Jules Verne
8. The Scarlet Letter - Nathaniel Hawthorne
9. The Wood Beyond the World - William Morris
10. The Idiot - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Just barely missed my list. If we ever do a pre-1800 list, Marlowe's Doctor Faustus would definitely land in my top ten, so a version of the Faust legend would make at least one list in all three polls.

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1. Goblin Market - Christina Rossetti
2. Goethe's Faust - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
3. Walden - Henry David Thoreau
4. Heart of Dakness - Joseph Conrad
5. The Brothers Karamazov - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
6. Salome - Oscar Wilde
7. Journey to the Center of the Earth - Jules Verne
8. The Scarlet Letter - Nathaniel Hawthorne
9. The Wood Beyond the World - William Morris
10. The Idiot - Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Not surprised to see Brothers at the time. It is perhaps the greatest book ever written. It's just not one that I always enjoy.

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Just barely missed my list. If we ever do a pre-1800 list, Marlowe's Doctor Faustus would definitely land in my top ten, so a version of the Faust legend would make at least one list in all three polls.
I think there was some ambiguity in the rules. SonicY's thread, the rules of which this thread claims to carry on, was called the top 50 novels since 1901, but eventually collections of short stories were allowed there and now a dramatic poem - Faust - and a play - Salome - were included. My list would have looked dramatically (note the pun) different if I had realized non-narrative works were allowed. I doubt more than two or three of my actual entries would have made it on my full list.

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I think there was some ambiguity in the rules. SonicY's thread, the rules of which this thread claims to carry on, was called the top 50 novels since 1901, but eventually collections of short stories were allowed there and now a dramatic poem - Faust - and a play - Salome - were included. My list would have looked dramatically (note the pun) different if I had realized non-narrative works were allowed. I doubt more than two or three of my actual entries would have made it on my full list.
This is true, I originally wanted to do just novels + collections of short stories but then I realized that the majority of short stories were not published in collections during the 19th century. There were also a lot more novel-poems like Eugene Onegin which accomplished essentially the same function as a novel but in a different form. I also got tons of submissions of entries that just treaded the line between narrative and pure non-fiction. I ended up deciding that as long as the work was in some way telling a story in narrative and not a direct recount of facts of ideas, I would accept it.

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