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Ryan O'Reilly Headed to Offer Sheet or Trade (Part 4)
2010-2011
65gp, 33g, 73a, 106 pts for a 1.63 points per game average.
2011-2012
46gp, 30g, 38a, 68 pts for a 1.48 points per game average.
2012-2013
48gp, 31g, 52a, 83 pts for a 1.73 points per game average.
6th in league scoring while playing far fewer games than those in front of him. it would be fair to say that ryan strome has dominated in the ohl this season.
you're right, i was completely wrong. sorry about that Isles and Strome fans!
Stay in college, because being an armchair GM is not your strong suit.
This trade blows for everyone but Edmonton. I would say that if you want Ryan O'Reilly, you fork over a big 4.
That doesn't really fit the needs in Colorado, but it would definitely make me think about it. And, since the Oilers and Avs are probably going to remain in the same division for the foreseeable future, I'd probably decline... unless it was Eberle for ROR, straight up, and the Oilers would be stupid to do that.
LOL you want the second best offensive defenseman in the game and two legitimate top-6 forwards for a holdout, a prospect and a 2nd?
Much more realistic based on actual trade values, Sherman's reported love for Little and the Jets abundance of picks this year.
I could be wrong, but I believe his counter was meant to illustrate how bad the original proposal was.
I would also postulate that if O'reilly could really be had for Little + 2nd, he would already be in a Jets jersey. Only way that happens is if the Avs overplay their hand and fail to move him by the draft.
It's hard listening to fans calling us delusional for wanting a core player or top prospect in return for our core player that we're sending your way, and then hearing guys wanting the Avs to add our probable top 5 1st, or our best prospect outside the NHL (or both) to get a package that doesn't suit our needs.
I don't think many, if any, of the proposals made by either side over the past week or so have been particularly realistic, I just wish we could all show a bit of perspective here. None of us appreciate other teams fans drastically undervaluing our teams assets so lets not turn around and do the same to each other - it isn't particularly constructive.
This was suggested before, Avs don't want Kulemin, a UFA in a season, but instead a younger player since they are trading a just turned 22 year old.
I understand that point of view. I might be in the minority (not sure), but I like that deal. I think the value's about right, and it answers our needs.
This was suggested before, Avs don't want Kulemin, a UFA in a season, but instead a younger player since they are trading a just turned 22 year old.
then COL can trade Kulemin to PIT and place him with Malkin (once he gets back). They have been teammates and good ones twice before in the past. I can't see TOR and PIT making a deal, but COL can deal him there np.
then COL can trade Kulemin to PIT and place him with Malkin (once he gets back). They have been teammates and good ones twice before in the past. I can't see TOR and PIT making a deal, but COL can deal him there np.
I doubt the Leafs would deal Kulemin if they believed he was gonna be flipped to the Pens. I know I wouldn't wanna be burned by Kulemin year after year. Malkin and Nik are incredible together.
The more I hear about ROR and Ottawa the more I feel like it's going to happen. Where there's smoke there is fire a lot of the time. Obviously there's a chance it won't happen, but I really hope it does. O'Reilly would look so good in this team especially in MacLean's system, too.
The more I hear about ROR and Ottawa the more I feel like it's going to happen. Where there's smoke there is fire a lot of the time. Obviously there's a chance it won't happen, but I really hope it does. O'Reilly would look so good in this team especially in MacLean's system, too.
Ottawa makes ZERO sense from a hockey standpoint. Dollars only go so far and with Turris and Spezza up the middle, you're not going to pay a #3 the kind of money O'Reilly is going to want first of all, and secondly, you're not going to give the assets up to put yourself in a bad position with cap money.
I know, I know, I've heard all about Turris or Spezza playing wing but let's be honest. That's wishful thinking.
Ottawa is about 25th on the list of teams that will go after O'Reilly...
then COL can trade Kulemin to PIT and place him with Malkin (once he gets back). They have been teammates and good ones twice before in the past. I can't see TOR and PIT making a deal, but COL can deal him there np.
If the Avs are willing to take an older winger (either to keep him or to trade him), the Sens would be willing to have a deal that included one less younger player, but Michalek instead.
The more I hear about ROR and Ottawa the more I feel like it's going to happen. Where there's smoke there is fire a lot of the time. Obviously there's a chance it won't happen, but I really hope it does. O'Reilly would look so good in this team especially in MacLean's system, too.
I don't like the idea personally, I think it's a bad fit for a trade.
It's not that I don't like ROR, I think he's a great player and I think he'll do well on whatever team he eventually gets traded to, but the only way it happens is if Ottawa gives up assets we can't spare or the Avs accept assets that don't meet their needs. One of those will have to happen for the trade to happen.
To be more specific:
The assets that would likely interest Colorado would be Silfverberg, Wiercioch, Cowen, and Zibanajad. We'd be moving from a position of weakness (wing and young defensemen) to add to our only remaining position of strength (Centres), not good.
Sure, we have a 1st rounder, but with all our injuries, it could end up 1st overall and Murray wouldn't/shouldn't take that risk.
Colorado also seems to want NHL ready defensemen and we can't trade any of those either (Gonchar is done in the offseason and he's our only experienced puck mover, we JUST traded for Methot and he's been invaluable, Lundin is only signed for a single season, and Phillips is a Senators lifer) Even if you move Turris to the wing it doesn't really make the team a whole lot better.
Trading for ROR would also create problems in the organization as well since the Senators have a ton of NHL ready Centre prospects/players (Da Costa, O'Brien, Grant, etc..) that they would probably have to dump because they created an immovable logjam on the roster (4 Centers signed into 2015/2016)
About the only benefit would be:
Adding NHL experience (Ottawa is so inexperienced that theyonly have about 6 players remaining with more than 2 NHL seasons right now). That's the kind of move you make when you're thinking about making a playoff run, which Ottawa isn't in a position to do this season with all the injuries.
Even with the way they're playing right now...who's to say that we wouldn't be better off waiting one more season and letting our prospects continue to develop?
It would help Ottawa make the cap floor next season (don't laugh it's a legitimate concern) if Alfredsson doesn't return.
Edit: I think the only way it makes sense for Ottawa is if they trade Smith back to Colorado. That's not a move I'd like Ottawa to make either though since they JUST re-signed him and he's been nothing but amazing for the Senators.
The more I hear about ROR and Ottawa the more I feel like it's going to happen. Where there's smoke there is fire a lot of the time. Obviously there's a chance it won't happen, but I really hope it does. O'Reilly would look so good in this team especially in MacLean's system, too.
Well, there has been more smoke around the Rangers involving ROR then the Sens.
Right now I would say theres probably 5-6 teams who all are in the mix for ROR. Those 5-6 being NYR/WPG/TOR/OTT/FLR/BUF and the following packages for each team being rumored as the bases of offers:
That's what seems to be the rumors from each team in the thick of this. As an Avs fan I like the basis for all of those trades. The only ones Im not particularly a fan of are Gardiner+ and Little+, the others are good starts.
Well, there has been more smoke around the Rangers involving ROR then the Sens.
Right now I would say theres probably 5-6 teams who all are in the mix for ROR. Those 5-6 being NYR/WPG/TOR/OTT/FLR/BUF and the following packages for each team being rumored as the bases of offers:
That's what seems to be the rumors from each team in the thick of this. As an Avs fan I like the basis for all of those trades. The only ones Im not particularly a fan of are Gardiner+ and Little+, the others are good starts.
Little plus Trouba plus? Winnipeg won't give that for ROR alone. Not even a maybe imo.
