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08-25-2012, 05:59 PM
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what if all those players struggle and team falls apart? i want answer to that question.
Person A: If there's an earthquake tomorrow, will there be an earthquake tomorrow?

Person B: Um...yes...?

Person A: So how can you say there won't be an earthquake tomorrow?


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Did you just choose to neglect Schenn and Couturier or was it an honest mistake?
I was wondering about that myself.

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Between Giroux, Couturier, and Schenn, I don't know why they should be looking for a new top tier center anytime within the next 12 years.
Feel free to add Scott Laughton into the mix. Now tell me that is not a deep center position to have. Most likely someone gets moved to wing but time will tell. Center position is strong for the future of the club. We will not be fun to play against for a long time.

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what if all those players struggle and team falls apart? i want answer to that question.
What if you made some kind of sense just once? What if you were able to communicate your thoughts in a way that wasn't an absolute insult to the English language?

These are the questions I want the answers to.

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08-26-2012, 10:43 AM
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I'm convinced toughfighter is a troll. His posts are always this dumb and pessimistic.
the problem with you is that you dont to hear the truth, you just want to believe that this team will win a cup, you want to believe this same team/roster that got eliminated by the devils will all of a sudden win it all, this team is far from it, if you want didnt watch the devils series, then you have no clue what is team is and they have more problems than you think.

if they were scoring goals all over the devils in the playoffs, then i would have a different feeling over this team and why do you think they tried to get parise,sutter, webber, bobby ryan because he knows this team is not good enough, which alot of fans and media are so blind to understand, im not using the season as a measuring stick, im using the playoffs because the season doesnt mean squad, it's what they do in the playoffs against good teams, if they cant beat them then this team is not enough, plain and simple.

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08-26-2012, 11:20 AM
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the problem with you is that you dont to hear the truth, you just want to believe that this team will win a cup, you want to believe this same team/roster that got eliminated by the devils will all of a sudden win it all, this team is far from it, if you want didnt watch the devils series, then you have no clue what is team is and they have more problems than you think.

if they were scoring goals all over the devils in the playoffs, then i would have a different feeling over this team and why do you think they tried to get parise,sutter, webber, bobby ryan because he knows this team is not good enough, which alot of fans and media are so blind to understand, im not using the season as a measuring stick, im using the playoffs because the season doesnt mean squad, it's what they do in the playoffs against good teams, if they cant beat them then this team is not enough, plain and simple.
You cited the Rangers earlier as the team we should aspire to be like, and you say our goal scoring can't compete with theirs. Guess what? Through 5 playoff games against the Devils, the Rangers scored 12 goals - only 1 more than the Flyers in 5 games. The Devils just aren't an easy team to put points up against.

By your logic (if you want to call it that), any team - the Bruins, Blackhawks, Canucks, whomever - should completely shake up their roster because let's face it - they're not the Kings, they didn't win the cup, so they're headed in the wrong direction and should explode the team. That's not how hockey works.

Personally, I'll take the team that played 12 rookies, had just traded away their captain and a top 50 forward, lost their new captain and inarguably one of the best defensemen in the league over the last decade, and still managed to put up over 100 points in the standings. Couple that with the fact that our young studs are a year older, a year more experienced, and have another year of working together in Lavi's system, and I'm pretty excited for where the team is going with or without the big off-season acquisitions. Is there room for improvement? Well, like any other team in any sport, of course there is. But am I happy with the direction this team is headed in and am I confident that this team is capable of putting together a run at the cup? Yes, I am.

Although a stud #1 d would be nice.


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the problem with you is that you dont to hear the truth, you just want to believe that this team will win a cup, you want to believe this same team/roster that got eliminated by the devils will all of a sudden win it all, this team is far from it, if you want didnt watch the devils series, then you have no clue what is team is and they have more problems than you think.

if they were scoring goals all over the devils in the playoffs, then i would have a different feeling over this team and why do you think they tried to get parise,sutter, webber, bobby ryan because he knows this team is not good enough, which alot of fans and media are so blind to understand, im not using the season as a measuring stick, im using the playoffs because the season doesnt mean squad, it's what they do in the playoffs against good teams, if they cant beat them then this team is not enough, plain and simple.
Huh? This team wasn't good enough in the Devil's series. That's obvious. But next year, Voracek, Couturier and Schenn should all (hopefully) take steps forward. That'll help a lot.

The Flyers don't need another top tier center. They have Giroux, Briere, Couturier and Schenn to fill out the first 2 center spots. Both Couturier and Schenn project to be at the very least a 2nd line center. If Voracek doesn't work out on Giroux's wing, I'm sure one of Briere or Schenn will move up. That's not a hole that the Flyers need to fill.

The biggest hole is obviously a #1 d-man to help replace the loss of Pronger. Team defense was one of the biggest problems throughout the whole post season in general.

And the Flyer's offense is better than the Ranger's offense. Pyatt, seriously? He's what your worried about?

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Maybe a decent winger, we dont need a superstar center when we have Schenn and Couts developing.

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You could say that about any team in the league. What if Stamkos only scores 30 goals? What if everyone on Vancouver decides they're sick of the cold weather and moves to Ecuador? There's no answer to any of these questions.

And the Flyers scored plenty in the Pens series. You're a daft, man. I'm convinced you don't really watch hockey.
Vancouver doesn't really get cold so I think they're safe

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Huh? This team wasn't good enough in the Devil's series. That's obvious. But next year, Voracek, Couturier and Schenn should all (hopefully) take steps forward. That'll help a lot.

The Flyers don't need another top tier center. They have Giroux, Briere, Couturier and Schenn to fill out the first 2 center spots. Both Couturier and Schenn project to be at the very least a 2nd line center. If Voracek doesn't work out on Giroux's wing, I'm sure one of Briere or Schenn will move up. That's not a hole that the Flyers need to fill.

The biggest hole is obviously a #1 d-man to help replace the loss of Pronger. Team defense was one of the biggest problems throughout the whole post season in general.

And the Flyer's offense is better than the Ranger's offense. Pyatt, seriously? He's what your worried about?

you really dont get it, i dont care about stats, im talking about ratings, what are these players good at? none of them have deadly shots accept maybe giroux and hartnell, but they always pass half the time and dont always like to shot, briere, schenn, Simmonds, read, courts, you think wrist shooting the goalies to death and cross ice passing all the time is going to win a cup? that's what they did against the devils, they dont have deadly shoot/sniper type player to beat a good goalie like pronger or ryan, unless this team has more size and sniper players, it's going to be the same problem.

you say the flyers offense is better then the rangers based on what? why did the flyers get swept by the rangers?

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you really dont get it, i dont care about stats, im talking about ratings, what are these players good at? none of them have deadly shots accept maybe giroux and hartnell, but they always pass half the time and dont always like to shot, briere, schenn, Simmonds, read, courts, you think wrist shooting the goalies to death and cross ice passing all the time is going to win a cup? that's what they did against the devils, they dont have deadly shoot/sniper type player to beat a good goalie like pronger or ryan, unless this team has more size and sniper players, it's going to be the same problem.

you say the flyers offense is better then the rangers based on what? why did the flyers get swept by the rangers?
Ratings eh? I rate Giroux at rabbit, Schenn at pinecone, and Simmonds at Aardvark.


Seriously, this isn't a video game. We have snipers. Hartnell's developed a pretty sick shot, Couts has a good shot that he didn't get to show off much last year, Read has a good shot, Giroux as a good shot, and Briere has a great shot that doesn't get enough love. We have snipers, we just don't Stamkos'. Unfortunately all the ACME's are sold out of Stamkos' this week.

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Flyers last year in goals: 3rd.
Rangers last year in goals. 13th.

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