Yeah, MPS doesn't fit in Edmonton. It should cost a lot less than a player of Martinez' ability to acquire him.
I should clarify:
The original offer the Oilers poster presented on the trade forum was Hemsky and MPS for Stoll and Martinez.
His logic was that Hemsky has more value than Stoll b/c he's a top 6 winger who is younger, and that Martinez has more value than MPS, so as a whole the trade is pretty balanced.
I thought it was a pretty fair offer for the most part, and said it was enticing/interesting but thought that Martinez was too much to give up for MPS in the deal. I said I thought a more fair deal might be Stoll and Lewis/King for Hemsky and Paajarvi, maybe with LA adding a late draft pick. I would think either Lewis or King would be a good role player in their bottom 6, especially King who would give them some size on the wing.
I don't think a lot of people would be willing to trade A-Mart straight up for MPS especially with Toffoli hopefully waiting in the wings.
I should clarify:
The original offer the Oilers poster presented on the trade forum was Hemsky and MPS for Stoll and Martinez.
His logic was that Hemsky has more value than Stoll b/c he's a top 6 winger who is younger, and that Martinez has more value than MPS, so as a whole the trade is pretty balanced.
I thought it was a pretty fair offer for the most part, and said it was enticing/interesting but thought that Martinez was too much to give up for MPS in the deal. I said I thought a more fair deal might be Stoll and Lewis/King for Hemsky and Paajarvi, maybe with LA adding a late draft pick. I would think either Lewis or King would be a good role player in their bottom 6, especially King who would give them some size on the wing.
I don't think a lot of people would be willing to trade A-Mart straight up for MPS especially with Toffoli hopefully waiting in the wings.
Thanks for that.
I can see what your saying but I still wouldn't make that deal. Hemsky is a more fragile version of Gagne (though a better scorer) to me. Hemsky wouldn't fit in with the grind and pound D first system that we play imo but who knows?
MPS might just turn out to be a good player 3rd line producer who can cover 2nd line duties for short stretches for awhile anyways.
Still, I don't think I make that deal, there would be better out there imo.
Yeah, I doubt anyone at this stage would do a MPS/A-Mart swap. It doesn't make much sense for us.
If Andy Andy or our race car driver were ready to reach the NHL level, I'd be all for flipping King for MPS, but they aren't. So that said, maybe a Trevor Lewis for MPS type deal would make more sense. And yes, I know he's playing well at the moment, but I'd rather flip Lewis while he's playing good than hold onto him and wait for the return to normalcy that's coming.
Yeah, I doubt anyone at this stage would do a MPS/A-Mart swap. It doesn't make much sense for us.
If Andy Andy or our race car driver were ready to reach the NHL level, I'd be all for flipping King for MPS, but they aren't. So that said, maybe a Trevor Lewis for MPS type deal would make more sense. And yes, I know he's playing well at the moment, but I'd rather flip Lewis while he's playing good than hold onto him and wait for the return to normalcy that's coming.
I honestly dont see lewis being traded hes to loved by sutter and dl . Despite being week offensively he plays alot of important mins on the pk and overall is alot more important to this team then king to me.
I would be interested in Hemsky, but not if it costs us Martinez. I understand what the Oilers are doing in trying to acquire a top 4 NHL defenseman in a trade for him. It's just not going to happen with the Kings. It doesn't fit into Dean's philosophy and the depth is a little thin right now on the blueline.
I honestly dont see lewis being traded hes to loved by sutter and dl . Despite being week offensively he plays alot of important mins on the pk and overall is alot more important to this team then king to me.
I think outside of Penner and maybe Gagne, all of the players are loved by DL and DS. Even Richardson for some unknown reason. That said, you have to give to receive, and I'd imagine if a deal were in place that DL liked, he'd pull the trigger on moving several players, Trevor Lewis included. I have never heard of making a 3rd/4th line depth player untouchable before. I'm not saying he will, or even should, get moved, but he would be if the right offer was there.
Let me clarify as well, I wouldn't trade Martinez for MPS even if the deal came with Hemsky for free, straight up, no Stoll.
Kings don't need a winger, we also don't need MPS who would be just another guy to dump for a pick, and there's no way I'm letting a player like AMart go to Edmonton, where they're just a couple players like AMart away from finishing their team. Plus we're low on defensemen so he's not even available.
Only player I would deal AMart for from Edmonton in the Kings current situation is Justin Schultz. And even Tambo isn't that dumb.
Let me clarify as well, I wouldn't trade Martinez for MPS even if the deal came with Hemsky for free, straight up, no Stoll.
Kings don't need a winger, we also don't need MPS who would be just another guy to dump for a pick, and there's no way I'm letting a player like AMart go to Edmonton, where they're just a couple players like AMart away from finishing their team. Plus we're low on defensemen so he's not even available.
Only player I would deal AMart for from Edmonton in the Kings current situation is Justin Schultz. And even Tambo isn't that dumb.
Now hold on a minute, we haven't any way of knowing exactly how dumb Tambo is.
