All my points are valid, still waiting for you to step up and say something worth while..
No, every one so far has been divorced from reality. My responses to you have been to disabuse you from your fantasy, so that in and of itself is worthwhile, though you are right that there is no synethesis. That's because none is possible based on a premise that is not real.
I mean you're saying things like most conference teams have 6 or 7 20 goal scorers. That's not even something that's debatable, anyone can look up the numbers and see you are completely wrong.
I'm glad some people finally see the truth to Niemi, I lost all hope for him last year when we made the WCF despite him having a 3.22 GAA and a .896 SV%
I'm sorry but you don't win cups with that ****** goaltending.
I'm glad some people finally see the truth to Niemi, I lost all hope for him last year when we made the WCF despite him having a 3.22 GAA and a .896 SV%
I'm sorry but you don't win cups with that ****** goaltending.
He needs to leave.
I agree that Niemi isnt helping the team but they also cant win if they cant score.
Oilers fan here, have a proposal for you guys. Curious to see your thoughts.
Joe Pavelski + Ryan Clowe for Sam Gagner + EDM 1st 2012 (Likely Mikhail Grigorenko, a player who projects to be like Joe Thornton)
Would you guys do that deal?
X - Thornton - Havlat
Marleau - Couture - Gagner
That X could be Grigorenko or a short-term UFA signing. Eventually once JT retires, you then don't skip a beat and replace him with Grigorenko. Or, you could even draft a Ryan Murray/Matthew Dumba/Filip Forsberg if you like/require a W/D more.
Extremely tempting. We need high-end forward prospects badly. A Grigorenko/Couture 1-2 Center punch longterm could be awesome. It'd be hard to give up Pavs, but I'd do it.
Also, I was thinking that a buy-low on Matt Duchene is something that Doug Wilson should look into. He's been pretty ****** this year even without his injuries. Stastny and O'Reilly are both outplaying him and Duchene is not suited for a bottom-six role. And it doesn't seem like he really has any chemistry with anyone on the Avs. Maybe something along the lines of:
Duchene's RFA rights
FOR
Boyle
Clowe
Pick/LHD prospect (Wrenn, Doherty, Petrecki)
Avs need a high-end offensive defenseman/PPQB and tons of leadership. Hejduk may retire so their already insanely young team will get younger and less structured. Clowe and Boyle are both great leaders and could really center an Avs team. The pick or prospect would be because Boyle is older. Avs have the cap room to take on Boyle and Clowe, they don't lose center depth, they add a top-6 winger and a top-pairing defenseman who can fix their abysmal PP and then a good young defensive defense prospect.
Sharks need young, high-potential forwards. Look no farther than an underachieving 21-year-old All-Star who's in Sacco's doghouse.
He is an extremely different player than Couture. Couture is safe, with solid two-way play. Duchene is dynamic, risky, and a game-breaker, which is something that I always hear Sharks fans complaining about. He's had a very bad season, between injuries and depth and Sacco hating him, but he has more potential than Couture. I'm not a proponent of dealing Boyle, but if we did, Duchene is the kind of guy we'd want in return.
No, every one so far has been divorced from reality. My responses to you have been to disabuse you from your fantasy, so that in and of itself is worthwhile, though you are right that there is no synethesis. That's because none is possible based on a premise that is not real.
I mean you're saying things like most conference teams have 6 or 7 20 goal scorers. That's not even something that's debatable, anyone can look up the numbers and see you are completely wrong.
Do you really know what you are talking about??
Maybe you should stick with what you believe in as you are not disabusing anyone.
I've looked up the numbers and most top teams have 6 or 7. Facts are we need more goal scoring -- sorry if you don't get it.
Maybe you should stick with what you believe in as you are not disabusing anyone.
I've looked up the numbers and most top teams have 6 or 7. Facts are we need more goal scoring -- sorry if you don't get it.
Go ahead and list them then. Make sure you are extrapolating correctly, you take their season average and multiply by games left. Don't sneak in games they didn't play.
Maybe you should stick with what you believe in as you are not disabusing anyone.
I've looked up the numbers and most top teams have 6 or 7. Facts are we need more goal scoring -- sorry if you don't get it.
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What numbers are you looking at? I looked through the top 8 Eastern Conference Teams and the top 8 Western Conference teams, and through tonights games, only the Penguins & Bruins have 5 20 goal scorers. Wings, Hawks, Flyers, and Devils have 4 20 goal scorers, and everyone else has 3 or less.
A couple of teams might get to 6 20 goal scorers, but it's a far cry from most teams with 6+.
Extremely tempting. We need high-end forward prospects badly. A Grigorenko/Couture 1-2 Center punch longterm could be awesome. It'd be hard to give up Pavs, but I'd do it.
Also, I was thinking that a buy-low on Matt Duchene is something that Doug Wilson should look into. He's been pretty ****** this year even without his injuries. Stastny and O'Reilly are both outplaying him and Duchene is not suited for a bottom-six role. And it doesn't seem like he really has any chemistry with anyone on the Avs. Maybe something along the lines of:
Duchene's RFA rights
FOR
Boyle
Clowe
Pick/LHD prospect (Wrenn, Doherty, Petrecki)
Avs need a high-end offensive defenseman/PPQB and tons of leadership. Hejduk may retire so their already insanely young team will get younger and less structured. Clowe and Boyle are both great leaders and could really center an Avs team. The pick or prospect would be because Boyle is older. Avs have the cap room to take on Boyle and Clowe, they don't lose center depth, they add a top-6 winger and a top-pairing defenseman who can fix their abysmal PP and then a good young defensive defense prospect.
Sharks need young, high-potential forwards. Look no farther than an underachieving 21-year-old All-Star who's in Sacco's doghouse.
The GM and coach need to get on the same page. All this work at creating a shutdown type 3rd line or to load up our bottom 6 with guys who can PK with Handzus, Winnik, Moore, Galiardi, etc. require a coach who is actually going to use such a line. Todd doesn't. Todd does things Detroit/Babcock style where he sends out his best players against yours and says "We're going to dominate you across 4 lines."
I think TM had close to his ideal team last year with the three scoring lines with his top line used as the "shutdown" role. The 3rd line got dominated in the WCF by a shutdown line that could score, a rarity, and the 4th line wasn't worth a damn the entire postseason.
We could have the 2002 DRW grind line out there as 3rd liners and they're still not going out against the other team's top line because that's not how our coach does things.
They won't go into a legitimate rebuild until Thornton and Marleau's contracts are up. Until then, this team will at the very least be in this very position of being just outside the playoffs or better. With their NMC's, it's not really reasonable to expect them to be moved.
100% true and the reason why these threads are really a waste of time.
