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Would the Oilers trade him to the Sens (Or anybody else, for that matter) for a 6th or 7th round draft pick just to get the contract off their books?
That they might do. Simply for financial reasons. They don't NEED to move Horcoff's contract, but you can't tell me that Katz wouldn't be happier with his 5.5 million off the books. I think they would move him if they were getting something back (like the proposed late draft pick), but not if they had to give up anything as incentive to do so.
Horcoff for Kuba (with whatever marginal pieces involved) would actually have somewhat of a chance of happening, unlike the original proposal.
Kuba is playing on the Sens top pair with Karlsson averaging almost 24 minutes per game at a +26. I have no idea how a player as such is not worth significantly more than an aging 5.5 million dollar solid third line center.
It has NO chance of happening, just like the original proposal. It is just not even close. It really sounds about as bad as the OP.
That they might do. Simply for financial reasons. They don't NEED to move Horcoff's contract, but you can't tell me that Katz wouldn't be happier with his 5.5 million off the books. I think they would move him if they were getting something back (like the proposed late draft pick), but not if they had to give up anything as incentive to do so.
He's only owed $13m in salary over the next three years, or an average of $4.3m a season. A replacement player would likely be in the $2.5m-3m range.
The Oilers, over the next three seasons, will spend between $180-195m in player salaries. We're really talking about $3-4m of it. I'm not sure that they'd give any assets to move 1.5%-2% of salary.
If his (or Hemsky's) contracts were on the books when RNH and the 2012 1st round pick's ELC's come off, perhaps - but they're structured to be off by then.
Where would Horcoff fit in this team, again? There's a reason the Oilers have sucked so badly the last few years and Horcoff is part of that.
Kuba is a free agent on July 1st, assuming Ottawa doesn't re-sign him. If he were under contract however, Ottawa would not move him for Horcoff and would not have a chance of happening.
He's only owed $13m in salary over the next three years, or an average of $4.3m a season. A replacement player would likely be in the $2.5m-3m range.
The Oilers, over the next three seasons, will spend between $180-195m in player salaries. We're really talking about $3-4m of it. I'm not sure that they'd give any assets to move 1.5%-2% of salary.
If his (or Hemsky's) contracts were on the books when RNH and the 2012 1st round pick's ELC's come off, perhaps - but they're structured to be off by then.
I agree, that's why I said a late pick might get him, but us adding an incentive piece won't happen.
Oilers move down 15 spots in the first round, but get a good young (and HUGE!) goalie in Bishop that we paid a 2nd rounder for, and get rid of Horc's contract. This deal could be tweaked as necessary.
What do people think of this?
It was obvious you were fishing for the pick in the OP, why not just come out with it then? You will never sniff that pick without Spezza or Karlsson in the deal, so take a hike brah. Take the summer off...and watch the draft like the rest of us. It ain't happening...ever.
It was obvious you were fishing for the pick in the OP, why not just come out with it then? You will never sniff that pick without Spezza or Karlsson in the deal, so take a hike brah. Take the summer off...and watch the draft like the rest of us. It ain't happening...ever.
HUGE!
Wow... 'brah'... really? You might want to take a break from Jersey Shore.
This is a discussion forum, so let's discuss, rather than throw around childish terms used by brainless idiots on an even more brainless TV show.
You Forgot Petry in that lineup who is likely going to around 2m per on his next contract.
You are right in that the oilers do not need cap space right now. Maybe when Hall/Eberle come to resign. I though it was going to be worse because I though Paajarvi was going to do better and demand more money but his next contract should be relatively cheap/he coule be used as trade bait.
It looks as though Lander could crack the oilers lineup after a full season in OKC. But don't know when that's going to be. Horcoff is basically the human shield for the kids on the team. The oil are paying him well and they are jsut trying to get their monies worth by overplaying him against toughs.
Oilers won't give up anything of real value to them in order to move Horcoff. They will wait it out.
Wow... 'brah'... really? You might want to take a break from Jersey Shore.
This is a discussion forum, so let's discuss, rather than throw around childish terms used by brainless idiots on an even more brainless TV show.
The problem is there is no basis for a discussion here. We don't ned to move Horcoff for financial reasons right now. If we need cap space for Eberle/Hall (unlikely as we're a low budget team right now and barring complete stupidity by Tambo we'll have plenty of cap space for them) then we could talk about Horcoff. But at that point he'll be getting paid 4 Mil for a 5.5 cap hit and the last year only 3.5 or something like that. Makes him an easier asset to move and would require nowhere near the incentive you're suggesting. Probably a 3rd round pikc maybe a 2nd if we got backa 3rd in return. There is zero chance Horcoff would be packaged with the 2nd overall pick to clear cap space when it won't be an isue.
Edmonton aren't up against the cap so don't need to pay to dump Horcoff, and Ottawa aren't interested in taking on that contract. No need to make this trade from either POV. If Ottawa really had a hard-on for one of Edmonton's young guys why not just make a realistic trade for one of them? ... but at this point outside of the guys Edmonton aren't moving (RNH, Hall, Eberle) Ottawa's young forwards are as good or better than Edmonton's anyway - and neither team has defensive prospects to spare.
Edmonton aren't up against the cap so don't need to pay to dump Horcoff, and Ottawa aren't interested in taking on that contract. No need to make this trade from either POV. If Ottawa really had a hard-on for one of Edmonton's young guys why not just make a realistic trade for one of them? ... but at this point outside of the guys Edmonton aren't moving (RNH, Hall, Eberle) Ottawa's young forwards are as good or better than Edmonton's anyway - and neither team has defensive prospects to spare.
They can have Alex Plante
As for the OP.. there is no 'hard on' for an Edmonton player.. im sure the guy wanted his team to get a high pick by packaging it with a salary dump. Nothing unrealistic about it.
