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03-20-2012, 09:17 AM
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Whatever money Cherry brings in to the CBC the NHL brings a lot more.
What does that have to do with anything?

CBC wants people to watch CBC, not hockey. Hockey is available on multiple channels with multiple carriers, and all make money for themselves.

DC brings viewers to HNIC on CBC, and as long as he does that, he is untouchable.

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CTV didn't out bid the CBC last time.

I'm not sure if CTV is really big on the Sports now.. they lost big money on the Olympic Broadcasting and were even heavily rumored to be looking to sell their rights for the 2012 games.
I think its fair to say Bell is very big into sports now with holding the Nfl rights buying Mlse with Rogers the Nhl rights would just add to what there doing last time yes Bell did not outbid Cbc last time but i could see Bell/Rogers doing a joint effort and make a massive offer.

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With the new Leafs ownership deal, I'd say it's likely HNIC is going to CTV.

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So is that Sportsnet? That's an expanded cable channel, CBC and CTV are on the most basic tier of cable. The program would lose viewers. And if it's Sportsnet, would the Sportsnet crew just cover regional games, and the HNIC crew would only do Saturdays??
Actually, now that television has done the digital conversion, TSN and Sportsnet are now on "basic cable" so it doesn't necessarily have to go on CTV. Thus why Rogers could very well make a bid for it and put it on Sportsnet without losing viewers.


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With the new Leafs ownership deal, I'd say it's likely HNIC is going to CTV.

However, that now television has done the digital conversion, TSN and Sportsnet are now on "basic cable" so it doesn't necessarily have to go on CTV. Thus why Rogers could very well make a bid for it and put it on Sportsnet.
If you look at Cbc they might be offer $100-$200 million while Bell/Roger joint effort you could see $300-$400 million.

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Thus why Rogers could very well make a bid for it and put it on Sportsnet without losing viewers.
I find Sportsnet broadcasts, at least of Canuck games, bordering on amateurish. Part of that may be they cheaped out and only bought the rights to games of low interest. Then again, part of it may be that they're just not very good at it, too.

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If you look at Cbc they might be offer $100-$200 million while Bell/Roger joint effort you could see $300-$400 million.
If not more. CBC has learned in the past it cannot compete with BGE. HNIC will go the way of the CFL, Olympics and World Cup (after 2014).

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I find Sportsnet broadcasts, at least of Canuck games, bordering on amateurish. Part of that may be they cheaped out and only bought the rights to games of low interest. Then again, part of it may be that they're just not very good at it, too.
Here, here! Trust me, I'm not advocating for it, I'm just saying it's a possibility since we're no longer needing to worry about a nation-wide analog audience.

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I find Sportsnet broadcasts, at least of Canuck games, bordering on amateurish. Part of that may be they cheaped out and only bought the rights to games of low interest. Then again, part of it may be that they're just not very good at it, too.
I don't think they cheaped out i do agree with the rest of your comments.

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What does that have to do with anything?

CBC wants people to watch CBC, not hockey. Hockey is available on multiple channels with multiple carriers, and all make money for themselves.

DC brings viewers to HNIC on CBC, and as long as he does that, he is untouchable.
I believe his argument was by keeping DC they will lose the rights to broadcast hockey cause he's allienating the NHL. So they have to make the choice of keeping DC but then losing hockey rights in a few years, or canning DC for a better chance at keeping hockey on CBC. That was my interpretation of it.

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How about Brian Burke replacing Don Cherry as the CBC's on-air between-periods broadcaster whenever Cherry does retire. Burkie might be available then. Personality-wise, he's cut from the same cloth.
Not likely. He'll be headed to a job with the league or another team, possibly Hockey USA, maybe even into academia with one of the leading Universities/Colleges somewhere. He might be cut from the same cloth, but an entirely different bolt of actual fabric....

If CBC does manage to retain HNIC post 2015 Id guess they completely revamp the show & drop the segment altogether, retiring it along with Cherry (voluntarilly and on his terms) who by that time will be in his 80's...


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I see a joint bid of Rogers and CBC over Rogers/Bell to be honest.

There's ALOT of former big shot CBC guys over at Rogers Sportsnet right now.. not just TV personalities either.. but people who have run HNIC like Scott Moore.

Rogers and Bell do not like each other.. the only reason why they combined to buy MLSE is because they were both scared one of them would purchase the entire thing.

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I see a joint bid of Rogers and CBC over Rogers/Bell to be honest.

There's ALOT of former big shot CBC guys over at Rogers Sportsnet right now.. not just TV personalities either.. but people who have run HNIC like Scott Moore.

Rogers and Bell do not like each other.. the only reason why they combined to buy MLSE is because they were both scared one of them would purchase the entire thing.
They might not like the other one but both of them owning Mlse and if they both get the rights to Hnic both of them would be a huge powerhouse so yes i can see a Rogers/Bell joint bid.

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They might not like the other one but both of them owning Mlse and if they both get the rights to Hnic both of them would be a huge powerhouse so yes i can see a Rogers/Bell joint bid.
CTV seems pretty set on not showing playoffs games though.

A rogers/cbc joint bid I think would work great.

CBC keeps their saturday games and special events like the all star, winter classic, sportsnet keeps everything else.

Playoffs Rogers/CBC split Canadian teams..and sportsnet gets the Conference finals.

CBC gets the Final.

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CTV seems pretty set on not showing playoffs games though.

A rogers/cbc joint bid I think would work great.

CBC keeps their saturday games and special events like the all star, winter classic, sportsnet keeps everything else.

Playoffs Rogers/CBC split Canadian teams..and sportsnet gets the Conference finals.

CBC gets the Final.
If Cbc keeps the Saturday games/winter classic and all star game and the finals there really would be very little value for Rogers if there is a joint effort Rogers would have to get something in return be it the finals one year and then say the all star game the next year plus a few saturday games each year if not i just don't see the point for Rogers doing a joint effort.

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What does that have to do with anything?

CBC wants people to watch CBC, not hockey. Hockey is available on multiple channels with multiple carriers, and all make money for themselves.

DC brings viewers to HNIC on CBC, and as long as he does that, he is untouchable.
Someone else answered but I would like to add that Don Cherry wouldn't be what he is without the stage that HNIC provides and the NHL to talk about. They are partners and one of the partners, the NHL, believes that the two guys in Coaches Corner are crapping where they eat.

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Someone else answered but I would like to add that Don Cherry wouldn't be what he is without the stage that HNIC provides and the NHL to talk about. They are partners and one of the partners, the NHL, believes that the two guys in Coaches Corner are crapping where they eat.
Interesting point moose, and it raises a contentious question. The NHL is the supplier, the CBC the byer and distributor.

Its not a "partnership" in the usual sense of the term at all. So, for the hundreds of millions the NHL receives from Canadian Taxpayers wallets they should be allowed to control editorial content of said programming, be it league or individual team personnel taking umbrage with comments or criticisms regardless whether or not they are about hockey or whatever other issue the on-air personnel decide to focus on?.

Coverage is supposed to be unbiased altogether though clearly the CBC crossed that line decades ago in Toronto & Montreal etc, but still, even "Homers" like Cherry shouldnt be muzzled simply because some suit somewhere doesnt like it, him nor his opinion.

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