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04-18-2012, 12:51 PM
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Or maybe you are wrong and coaching does in fact matter.
Nobody said that. It's a contributing factor, but it's also a subjective one. If Boston drops Philly on it's head again, Lavy won't be regarded as the greatest coach of all time ever anymore. It's how things work.

What's not subjective is the plain, in your face, obvious as a punch in the balls piss poor play of a bunch of awfully high paid players who should voluntarily retire.

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Nobody said that. It's a contributing factor, but it's also a subjective one. If Boston drops Philly on it's head again, Lavy won't be regarded as the greatest coach of all time ever anymore. It's how things work.

What's not subjective is the plain, in your face, obvious as a punch in the balls piss poor play of a bunch of awfully high paid players who should voluntarily retire.
Nah. You know we agree on most. It is just that you usually mention how coaching is overrated and how it is mostly about individual mistakes. A lot is about that, sure, but in my opinion mistakes happen more often if players aren't trying to execute an overall game plan that works against the opposition they're pitted against. It is and has been obvious for a while that Laviolette has his team set on what we are doing and they're exploiting every perceivable flaw we have like virtuosos. And then we make more and more mistakes when our players get less and less confident as things goes more and more sour.

I am still waiting for just ONE sign that Bylsma can do anything to change a series that is turning sour. Just one.

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That's a fair request. DB, do something to win a game in a series thats not going your way.

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Fact is, this team is getting killed by three things - shorthanded goals, which are inexcusable, an anemic powerplay, and horribly timed penalties which puts a lethal PP to work. Special teams are sinking our ship. I don't know the numbers, but I'd guess that even strength scoring in this series is damn near identical.
Flyers PP - 6/10 (60%)
Flyers SHG - 3
Flyers ES Goals - 11

Pens PP - 3/12 (25%)
Pens SHG - 0
Pens ES Goals - 9

One of the Flyers ES goals is an empty netter so basically they have 10 ES goals and we have 9. Pretty damn even. The story of the series is our special teams basically.

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Nah. You know we agree on most. It is just that you usually mention how coaching is overrated and how it is mostly about individual mistakes. A lot is about that, sure, but in my opinion mistakes happen more often if players aren't trying to execute an overall game plan that works against the opposition they're pitted against. It is and has been obvious for a while that Laviolette has his team set on what we are doing and they're exploiting every perceivable flaw we have like virtuosos. And then we make more and more mistakes when our players get less and less confident as things goes more and more sour.

I am still waiting for just ONE sign that Bylsma can do anything to change a series that is turning sour. Just one.
It's not so much that it's overrated, just that depending on what the end result is (or what it's about to be), it's the easiest thing to blame.

Again, DB is going to have to take a brunt of the blame here because that's how it goes, but when Staal has the puck 3 feet from the blue line and half ***** a clear that ends up in our net, I can't blame that on any sort of game planning. Same goes for Lovejoy having 359 degrees of options to make a play, and using the ONE angle that's being covered by Couturier.

I remember us both dreading the Martin signing as soon as it happened, and Orpik's ALWAYS been erratic, save for those two playoff runs. We can justifiably rant against the coach, but we have some significant flaws in our lineup, namely the defense.

And I know you agree with me on Fleury and always have. He's a good goalie in a league filled with good goalies, and far from elite. Yes, he's been hung out to dry, but at the same time I want him to make ONE ****ing save when we need it.

Rinne last night? Now that's elite.

If we're going to go after the coach, I think we should be going up to the GM's door with torches and pitchforks.

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Flyers PP - 6/10 (60%)
Flyers SHG - 3
Flyers ES Goals - 11

Pens PP - 3/12 (25%)
Pens SHG - 0
Pens ES Goals - 9

One of the Flyers ES goals is an empty netter so basically they have 10 ES goals and we have 9. Pretty damn even. The story of the series is our special teams basically.
Just as I thought. Thanks for breaking down the numbers.

I knew the Flyers PP was doing well, but 60% is ridiculous. This is the 2nd or 3rd time where we went into the playoffs with a highly touted PK and I feel they have really let us down.

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