HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > The History of Hockey
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie
Notices

The History of Hockey Relive great moments in hockey history and discuss how the game has changed over time.

Who is the most "manliest" player (in a broad sense)?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-21-2017, 06:05 AM
  #76
VanIslander
Don't waste my time
 
VanIslander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 25,062
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveed Diggs View Post
this kurt browning guy sounds really manly
... No. He is no ideal of manliness. Just winning championships in itself does not make a guy manly (as per original objection to Crosby).



In terms of figure skaters, Elvis Stojko, the three-time world champion, two-time Olympic silver medalist, seven time Canadian champion, was manly. The fact that he was one of the best in the world at his sport for several years is beside the point.


VanIslander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-21-2017, 06:06 AM
  #77
Daveed Diggs
Wriggle like a fish.
 
Daveed Diggs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Oui oui, mon ami.
Country: France
Posts: 19,184
vCash: 420
Quote:
Originally Posted by VanIslander View Post
... No. He is no ideal of manliness. Just winning championships in itself does not make a guy manly (as per original objection to Crosby).



In terms of figure skaters, Elvis Stojko, the three-time world champion, two-time Olympic silver medalist, seven time Canadian champion, was manly. The fact that he was one of the best in the world at his sport for several years is beside the point.

both very manly IMHO

Daveed Diggs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-21-2017, 07:57 AM
  #78
VanIslander
Don't waste my time
 
VanIslander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 25,062
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveed Diggs View Post
both very manly IMHO
Then you didn't know Kurt Browning. I nice guy, but "manly" ain't a characteristic people have used to describe him.

Seriously. Some people around here have never heard the term used, it seems.

VanIslander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-21-2017, 08:41 AM
  #79
Daveed Diggs
Wriggle like a fish.
 
Daveed Diggs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Oui oui, mon ami.
Country: France
Posts: 19,184
vCash: 420
Quote:
Originally Posted by VanIslander View Post
Then you didn't know Kurt Browning. I nice guy, but "manly" ain't a characteristic people have used to describe him.

Seriously. Some people around here have never heard the term used, it seems.
maybe it's an outdated term or has outdated connotations

Daveed Diggs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-21-2017, 10:15 AM
  #80
Johnny Engine
Moderator
 
Johnny Engine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,662
vCash: 500
The OP laid out his definition of the word clearly enough. Back and forth about whether you like the term and whether it applies to figure skaters doesn't answer the OP's question. Please keep the thread on topic.

Johnny Engine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-21-2017, 12:05 PM
  #81
vadim sharifijanov
ugh
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 14,878
vCash: 500
elvis stojko was very butch

maybe did/maybe did not knock out a young eric lindros in a bar

vadim sharifijanov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-21-2017, 01:56 PM
  #82
Hanji
Registered User
 
Hanji's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wisconsin
Country: United States
Posts: 1,246
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Phil View Post
There are allegations against him that aren't pretty mind you, but what is so uncommon about bailing hay shirtless? Farmers don't get hot or tired? Hull is very young in that picture, maybe 19, 20, 21, so maybe it was a reporter doing a piece on him maybe it wasn't. Either way, that's how he got his physique and strength. I mean, I'm not a farmer but have known many a farm boy and I think he fits the bil
It's most definitely a staged photo to make Hull look more 'manly'. Nobody in their right mind is gonna pitch hay without a shirt on; unless your objective is to break out in a rash with welts that itch like crazy.


Last edited by Hanji: 06-21-2017 at 02:07 PM.
Hanji is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-22-2017, 05:33 PM
  #83
needmorefighting
Registered User
 
needmorefighting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 275
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vadim sharifijanov View Post
elvis stojko was very butch

maybe did/maybe did not knock out a young eric lindros in a bar
Snopes debunked this.

needmorefighting is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-23-2017, 06:54 AM
  #84
the edler
Cory Schneider fan
 
the edler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,729
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by needmorefighting View Post
Snopes debunked this.
Who's Snopes? Stojko debunked it himself.

All the urban myths surrounding Lindros are funny though.

the edler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-23-2017, 02:43 PM
  #85
BobbyAwe
Registered User
 
BobbyAwe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South Carolina
Country: United States
Posts: 2,467
vCash: 500
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...6461?s=594x594

BobbyAwe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-23-2017, 02:58 PM
  #86
Doctor No
Registered User
 
Doctor No's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,761
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by the edler View Post
Who's Snopes?
http://www.snopes.com/sports/hockey/lindros.asp

Snopes is probably the current worldwide leading authority on the authenticity of urban legends. They typically find first-person accounts (such as Stojko's here, which you pointed out). You'd probably enjoy them.

__________________
The Goaltender Home Page (http://hockeygoalies.org) - Preserving Goaltender History since 1994
2016-17 NHL Goaltending Performances by Team: http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/nhl/logs/NHL2016.html
Doctor No is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-25-2017, 10:06 PM
  #87
martinez
Goodbye JLA
 
martinez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 2,737
vCash: 500
The Hammer

martinez is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-25-2017, 11:30 PM
  #88
The Panther
Registered User
 
The Panther's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Country: Japan
Posts: 5,462
vCash: 500
Maybe we should a "least manly" thread...

The Panther is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2017, 11:15 AM
  #89
Namba 17
Registered User
 
Namba 17's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Country: Russian Federation
Posts: 682
vCash: 500


Took part in World War II. Serving in the naval infantry he was wounded in the foot in a battle near Shlisselburg in 1943 when he stepped on a German booby trap. After a month and a half rehabilitation at a hospital he returned to front into the infantry and served as a scout. Six months later he was wounded into his arm, but returned to the Leningrad front once again. He was wounded for the third time during the Krasnoye Selo offensive, when a "jumping mine" exploded very close to him. The wound was so serious, that doctors were going to amputate his leg, suspecting gangrene. Fortunately, this diagnosis had not been confirmed, but he was operated four times on the right leg and four times on the left one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Sologubov
After all this he became the best WC defenseman 3 times and Soviet League all-stars 7 times.

Namba 17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2017, 11:58 AM
  #90
Killion
Global Moderator
 
Killion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 32,629
vCash: 500
^^^ Wow. Make for a fabulous biographical, book... and movie. Sort of like Audie Murphy & To Hell & Back with a hockey angle. Quite the life.

Killion is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2017, 07:50 PM
  #91
HowsUrBreath
Registered User
 
HowsUrBreath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 962
vCash: 500
being manly is not about looking a certain way

oftentimes guys try to look "manly" by lifting weights or covering their bodies with tattoos, this is all rooted in insecurity and there is nothing manly about being insecure

real manly men are followed and greatly respected by other men, they are also strongly desired by women

the manliest player of all time is Jonathan Toews

HowsUrBreath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2017, 03:06 AM
  #92
Darth Yoda
Registered User
 
Darth Yoda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Grovebranch's Crease
Country: Sweden
Posts: 3,445
vCash: 931
Quote:
Originally Posted by HowsUrBreath View Post
being manly is not about looking a certain way

oftentimes guys try to look "manly" by lifting weights or covering their bodies with tattoos, this is all rooted in insecurity and there is nothing manly about being insecure

real manly men are followed and greatly respected by other men, they are also strongly desired by women

the manliest player of all time is Jonathan Toews
Too true. This is why i nominated Mats Sundin, on the basis of the national team. Other MEN knows who to look to to lead the herd, while BOYS try to nominate themselves to the position. Other lesser BOYS might fall for the empty narcissistic one much like teenagers often do, but that could only lead to failiure for the herd.


Last edited by Darth Yoda: 06-27-2017 at 03:12 AM.
Darth Yoda is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2017, 08:35 AM
  #93
Don'tcry4mejanhrdina
Registered User
 
Don'tcry4mejanhrdina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: This space.
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,930
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Engine View Post
Hay and especially straw can be nasty, abrasive stuff that'll leave little scratches and welts all over you without a proper work shirt. I mean, I suppose if you're sufficiently manly, that's not a big deal, but having spent many a summer bailing hay in the 905 area where it gets up in the high 30s in late July, I never felt so overheated that going shirtless was a better idea.
This. I don't doubt he worked on a farm but the only reason he was shirtless in that pic was he was showing off for a photo shoot.

My grandfather and uncles had farms. The most they ever did when it was hot was roll up their sleeves. But then they weren't posing for a camera. They also never beat their wives and actually looked after their kids, that's what a real man is like.

Don'tcry4mejanhrdina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-27-2017, 11:39 PM
  #94
Supreme King
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 189
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Panther View Post
Gimme a break. He mixed it up with Larry Robinson when he was like, 20, battled Trottier into submission, knocked down Potvin in '84 (major inspiration to the young Oilers who then won), fought Roberts a few times, fought McSorley twice, and generally was a fierce presence. Yeah, he flipped the switch a few times and laid some elbows into helpless opponents, but let's not pretend he was Claude Lemieux.
Gimme a break!

Mixed it up with Robinson? you must be drinking sake bombs. I re-call him swinging his stick in a threatening motion against Robinson back in '81. You know why? He knew he'd get his ass kicked or else he would have dropped the gloves!

McSorley would have pummeled him twice if it wasn't for the refs saving him. Messier was tremendous, but there's no doubt he picked on smaller players and used cheap shot tactics. Mike Eaves in disgusting fashion, Jaime Macoun in cowardly fashion, Paul Baxter, Mike Modano............ you name it.


Last edited by Supreme King: 06-28-2017 at 05:52 AM.
Supreme King is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-28-2017, 06:30 AM
  #95
FrozenJagrt
Registered User
 
FrozenJagrt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Waterloo, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,595
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by the edler View Post
Who's Snopes? Stojko debunked it himself.

All the urban myths surrounding Lindros are funny though.
Not to say Stojko couldn't, however. Lindros is and was certainly a tough customer, but if I remember correctly Elvis holds a black belt in some form of martial art? Say what you will about the legitimacy of a black belt (currently an epidemic of fake black belts walking around these days), but guys that train extensively in combat sports are more likely to win in a scrap versus a guy that's just big and mean.

FrozenJagrt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-28-2017, 07:42 AM
  #96
The Panther
Registered User
 
The Panther's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Country: Japan
Posts: 5,462
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme King View Post
Gimme a break!

Mixed it up with Robinson? you must be drinking sake bombs. I re-call him swinging his stick in a threatening motion against Robinson back in '81. You know why? He knew he'd get his ass kicked or else he would have dropped the gloves!

McSorley would have pummeled him twice if it wasn't for the refs saving him. Messier was tremendous, but there's no doubt he picked on smaller players and used cheap shot tactics. Mike Eaves in disgusting fashion, Jaime Macoun in cowardly fashion, Paul Baxter, Mike Modano............ you name it.
Classic Messier:


The Panther is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:02 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. @2017 All Rights Reserved.