mindfly, you know very well that it's simply suggested to make those who don't think Hudler sucks want to yell out "Hudler doesn't suck, and here's why!"
Nope. It appears that's where you want to take it, though.
Speaking of which, how awesome is that roster lately with more kids getting ice time?
Right now it's crap. I thought Nyqyuist and Smith earned spots out of camp, though could understand the org wanting a longer look at Emmerton and Kindl. Have to wonder if maybe they should have kept the more skilled players and had them better prepared to step in now (though, the Wings still seem unwilling to let Nyquist run with a spot this year).
I've been pretty okay with promoting Helm and promoting from within to fill out the bottom six from the start, though, and I still don't mind the decision. Even with the team looking like crap right now, going through this may pay dividends in a few weeks as the team gets healthy and these guys slide back into smaller roles.
As long as Cleary and Homer arent in the lineup, i dont care how it ends up looking. Bring back Nyquist and hopefully the last ten games of the season will calm him down for the playoffs. Same for Smith but keep him up.
Danny Cleary is a hard worker, but so is Nyquist but he has a working body.
As long as Cleary and Homer arent in the lineup, i dont care how it ends up looking. Bring back Nyquist and hopefully the last ten games of the season will calm him down for the playoffs. Same for Smith but keep him up.
Danny Cleary is a hard worker, but so is Nyquist but he has a working body.
I am sorry I am a big Nyquist guy have been clear back to his Maine days. But, he needs to get stronger to be truly effective at this level, he shows glimpses of what he will be when he isn't being thrown to the ice. He needs the off-season hopefully 10 more lbs and be a little stronger on his skates. With all that said if they are trailing in a series and struggling offensively he is the trump card I expect to be played and I would be fine with that.
I am sorry I am a big Nyquist guy have been clear back to his Maine days. But, he needs to get stronger to be truly effective at this level, he shows glimpses of what he will be when he isn't being thrown to the ice. He needs the off-season hopefully 10 more lbs and be a little stronger on his skates. With all that said if they are trailing in a series and struggling offensively he is the trump card I expect to be played and I would be fine with that.
While i dont disagree with what you are saying, i am having a hard time seeing Cleary do better.
Maybe Nyquist just goes insane for a single round where the Wings need the scoring badly. I dont see Cleary being the spark that the Wings will need in the playoffs espesially with all the road games they are going to have to win.
I'm not sure where to put this, but this'll do. Why does Malik have a hard-on for Emmerton? Every game recap is the same, this is from eysterday's game:
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and by golly, the little runt’s earning his way onto the playoff roster by carrying the puck with courage and showing enthusiasm every night.
What is he watching? Carrying the puck with courage?? The puck is on his stick for like 5 seconds a game. He plays the most basic game I have ever seen.
I'm not sure where to put this, but this'll do. Why does Malik have a hard-on for Emmerton? Every game recap is the same, this is from eysterday's game:
What is he watching? Carrying the puck with courage?? The puck is on his stick for like 5 seconds a game. He plays the most basic game I have ever seen.
Malik makes me want to vomit.
I can't believe there are people who view him as even somewhat credible.
His "prospect reports" are ridiculous. Everyone is a freakin' star with Malik, unless they have a Minor in Possession charge on their record.
While i dont disagree with what you are saying, i am having a hard time seeing Cleary do better.
Maybe Nyquist just goes insane for a single round where the Wings need the scoring badly. I dont see Cleary being the spark that the Wings will need in the playoffs espesially with all the road games they are going to have to win.
Cleary's safer, and better suited for the high-stakes, minimize mistakes environment of the playoffs. Cleary's not the guy Nyquist has to knock out of the lineup, though. The spot Nyquist would/should take is that of Mursak or Emmerton. Even with getting knocked down, Nyquist is still better than either of them.
Cleary's safer, and better suited for the high-stakes, minimize mistakes environment of the playoffs. Cleary's not the guy Nyquist has to knock out of the lineup, though. The spot Nyquist would/should take is that of Mursak or Emmerton. Even with getting knocked down, Nyquist is still better than either of them.
I sort of agree with this. Although a bigger point I should have stressed was I don't think he will be thrust into the lineup. There are actual reasons to it, with this being his first pro season and the physically demanding nature of the playoffs. Is he better than Mursak and Emmerton? In my opinion yes, not even really close either. Are the Wings likely to play him before they are struggling? My opinion is no.
I don't think Nyquist isn't good enough, but he has struggled physically when in the lineup. You see the flashes of his skill, but you also see him getting knocked of the puck a decent amount and making some dicey passes that could burn you come the post-season. I just don't think given the Wings history he will be put into that situation. So my answer was more about being a realist. It is the same reason I think Smith will be the 7th D-man barring injury. Sure we clamor for him, but the Wings have the top 6 of vets they will trust before him being inserted if they fall behind in a series.
When healthy, I don't see anything changing the top lines because we won games and scored plenty of goals when those two were intact. I think those will be our playoff lines, but Mursak and Smith will not be far away if someone's not delivering:
Bertuzzi Datsyuk Franzen
Filppula Zetterberg Hudler
Miller Helm Cleary
Abdelkader Emmerton Homer
Mursak
Lidstrom White
Kronwall Stuart
Ericsson Quincey
Smith
Howard
MacDonald
Yeah, no Nyquist there and I doubt he'll be anything more than a pressbox guy in the playoffs. Personally I'd like Babs to try a Franzen-Datsyuk-Nyquist line before the playoffs start to see what he got but that's hoping for too much/and or make too much sense. Nyquist knocked down too much? Perhaps, but Skinner has done that for two years and counting and it's going pretty well for that guy.
Playing Nashville and eventually St Louis will not be about scoring, it'll be about keeping the mistakes down and Howard making the saves he has to make.
I'm not sure where to put this, but this'll do. Why does Malik have a hard-on for Emmerton? Every game recap is the same, this is from eysterday's game:
What is he watching? Carrying the puck with courage?? The puck is on his stick for like 5 seconds a game. He plays the most basic game I have ever seen.
I'll give Emmerton credit for improving his faceoff skills as he was terrible at the start of the season. He still doesn't take many defensive zone faceoffs so he's being coddled but that makes sense until he's reliable in the faceoff circle. I think Emmerton is pretty far down the list for guys who are disappointments. With that being said I don't think you should expect honest criticism from Malik, it's just not his style. He tends to sound like he's trapped in the movie Fargo by golly.
I sort of agree with this. Although a bigger point I should have stressed was I don't think he will be thrust into the lineup. There are actual reasons to it, with this being his first pro season and the physically demanding nature of the playoffs. Is he better than Mursak and Emmerton? In my opinion yes, not even really close either. Are the Wings likely to play him before they are struggling? My opinion is no.
I don't think Nyquist isn't good enough, but he has struggled physically when in the lineup. You see the flashes of his skill, but you also see him getting knocked of the puck a decent amount and making some dicey passes that could burn you come the post-season. I just don't think given the Wings history he will be put into that situation. So my answer was more about being a realist. It is the same reason I think Smith will be the 7th D-man barring injury. Sure we clamor for him, but the Wings have the top 6 of vets they will trust before him being inserted if they fall behind in a series.
Yeah, I don't really expect either to get a shot at the start of the playoffs, either. I just don't get these calls to get Cleary out of the lineup, when we have Emmerton and Mursak still seeing ice (and I like Mursak, but I think the injury really killed his season and his chance to develop this year). If we were going to put Nyquist out there, those are the guys he should be replacing. I can't imagine him taking any more minutes than either of those guys (under 10 a game in the playoffs), but they're more likely to be productive minutes.
I think Nyquist continuing his production throughout the entire season at GR surprised some people. in one of the RWC updates, I think it was GR's GM or coach who said something along the lines that most college guys hit a wall around game 40. Nyquist just kept going. I'm really looking forward to that kid in Detroit next year.
A contract I wasn't thrilled about was the Eaves deal, but I think his absence has been magnified as the season has went on. We aren't fast enough, and he's a guy who moves really well out there. We lack some polish in our bottom6, and he was a guy who provided that. Our PK has been weak, and he was a guy who locked down a spot on the PK. Doing up playoff lines, and we look quite a bit more solid if we could slot Eaves into that third or fourth line.
edit: also, have to say I agree with Fabricoh about Emmerton not really being a disappointment. I don't know what others expected, but I hoped he could be a depth forward and maybe take the fourth line center job and run with it. Despite saying I'd bench him for Nyquist, the guy hasn't been far off what probably should have been expected of him, either.
I'm not sure where to put this, but this'll do. Why does Malik have a hard-on for Emmerton? Every game recap is the same, this is from eysterday's game:
What is he watching? Carrying the puck with courage?? The puck is on his stick for like 5 seconds a game. He plays the most basic game I have ever seen.
malik is a fan that simply doesn't undertand the game of hockey at the NHL level.
there's no reason to ever read anything he posts that wasn't written by someone else.
That's not entirely fair to say considering no one is clamoring to play kids over Lidstrom and Datsyuk.
I'm all for having the kids in for guys like Homer and Bert.
The team not winning has little to do with the youngsters and everything to do with the stars being hurt.
Maybe the youngsters aren't good enough to carry the team anywhere but to a lottery pick.
Which is totally fine with me, by the way. They'll figure it out with time, but at this stage, I get why Cleary gets more time than people would like around here.
I'll be extremely disappointed if Holmstrom is in the playoff lineup the majority of the time. I've defended him and his time when he was in the top 6, but he isn't helping the PP and can't do anything 5 on 5.
