Gatorade, is there anything anyone could say to convince you that Dudley has any competence as a hockey man?
I think we both know there isn't, so why not drop it?
I have no doubt he had competence but he was called a genius and part of the solution. I take exception to that. His record is that of a underling has a history of horrible moves when he called the shots. Now he is very much buried within the Leaf org and he is 63 years old.
Having a hand in something and actually being responsible are very different things.
If Dudley was so awesome why has he only ever worked for the worst teams in hockey? Propaganda.
I'm just here to bring to light that he has done some good things to counterbalance your narrative that he's terrible and has zero redeeming qualities.
I don't care that he's in the front office because there's nothing I can do about it, and I understand that you don't like him. I just take exception that you're trying to frame the argument to fit your agendas.
That's like me saying Sather is a terrible GM because he once stated that if he had a team with the payroll of the Rangers his teams would never lose and then allude to his terrible free agent signings and just not mention the current state of the franchise.
You must be on a debate team or a lawyer or something but I see through your subterfuge.
I'm just here to bring to light that he has done some good things to counterbalance your narrative that he's terrible and has zero redeeming qualities.
I don't care that he's in the front office because there's nothing I can do about it, and I understand that you don't like him. I just take exception that you're trying to frame the argument to fit your agendas.
That's like me saying Sather is a terrible GM because he once stated that if he had a team with the payroll of the Rangers his teams would never lose and then allude to his terrible free agent signings and just not mention the current state of the franchise.
You must be on a debate team or a lawyer or something but I see through your subterfuge.
I have nothing against him. I take exception to him being pointed to as a genius and part of the solution.
His track record is what it is. Hardly a genius. Pretty decent hockey guy with barely any success. A journey man you could say.
he should have been traded at the trade deadline, not sure we can move that contract this summer.
Terrible contract extension....
Liles was signed at $4.2M and his contract extension nets him $3.875M over the next 4-years.
Probably not going to find many offensive D-men making that wage. It's one of the cheapest contracts, and shopping in the UFA market would be at least $5M.
Hard to imagine that you even knew what his contract was, to make the statement you made...
Liles was signed at $4.2M and his contract extension nets him $3.875M over the next 4-years.
Probably not going to find many offensive D-men making that wage. It's one of the cheapest contracts, and shopping in the UFA market would be at least $5M.
Hard to imagine that you even knew what his contract was, to make the statement you made...
The point was that he is not required moving forward and is In decline.
The point was that he is not required moving forward and is In decline.
According to who?
No one can take over his roster spot full time currently and Liles had his second best career season last season, that's hardly declining. He got better.
Liles was signed at $4.2M and his contract extension nets him $3.875M over the next 4-years.
Probably not going to find many offensive D-men making that wage. It's one of the cheapest contracts, and shopping in the UFA market would be at least $5M.
Hard to imagine that you even knew what his contract was, to make the statement you made...
When you read a book do you always start at the end......you come into this debate at the end of it and post....
“I feel like I'm finally starting to get my legs back and my timing back,” he said. “Unfortunately the results haven't come along with it, but I've felt better on the ice, just in my reads and my decision-making.
“Like I said, you feel like you're just that step or step and a half behind when you come back and then you're doing everything you can to play catch up. It's that fine line of you're trying to train to get your legs back and your strength back and things like that, but then you're trying not to over-train. It's such a fine line that you're walking.”
This was not his first experience with a concussion. Just last year – while still with the Avalanche – Liles was diagnosed with the injury in the season's final days, but in that instance he had the full summer to recuperate before starting fresh the following fall. Lifting the fog of a concussion midseason has proved a different challenge.
Two straight seasons with concussion.
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using his big frame to create space and his skating ability to find open lanes to drive the net. He stands 6-3 and is a natural goal scorer with plenty of confidence.
He's a scout's dream in the way he prepares himself and plays an unselfish game, making smart decisions with the puck. With his bloodlines, he certainly understands what it will take to make it at the next level.
Why re-sign a guy long-term after he just suffered his second concussion in 50 games? Should have just let him expire (or traded him at the deadline) and let Holzer fill the role. But Burke's desperate to make the playoffs.
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Oh well, he's an offensive Dman that is a good leader for our young kids, involved in the community and when healthy can get about 40 points, not to mention his cap hit is under 4 mil. Can't complain about having that as a #4-5 dman.
