I'm with you Burnett is a pro and should be used to that by now. In the NFL guys are coached after every play and commonly ripped into for mistakes. Reed seems to like you said deal with the issue in the moment and move on. He obviously likes Burnett as a player he's giving him a big role. Reed did what he should of, he's a flat out excellent coach.
This isn't the NFL, and its not the USA. One of the biggest jokes in pro sports is seeing baseball managers rip into players,officials, other managers, umpires as if they're some ****ing barking chihuahua. All bark and no bite. Thats what it always says to me. Mouthy little ****ers. (Not saying Kavis Reed with this) To me thats the lamest way to approach anybody. In baseball it seems as if its a scripted part of the game. "Oh look at the manager go ballistic". I dunno. I'm a peaceful person but if anybody ever came at me like that then I'd be a little unpredictable.
What I WAS talking about is theres several ways to motivate players, teach players, inform players, educate players and all I'm saying is that during game situations Reed leans heavily on the big stick approach which may distract people with half a temper and a lot of guys that play Pro ball have a pretty deep temper inside that can get boiling although you might not know it. For some players, and anybody remotely built like me, if you pull that **** they're going to be seeing red for the next hour or so rather than concentrating out there.
Different things work with different players and types of people. Reed is using too much of a one size fits all approach and it could eventually cost him. Its unimaginative and its limited. He could be more effective then pissing off a player. I can tell you he's managed to do that with Howard on occasion.
Again I'm a big Kavis Reed fan saying all of this. He could expand his bag of gameday tricks and management. Also, the Al Pacino motivational speech isn't working everytime. You gotta change it up, use different motivation on different days, say much different things, and use different strategies to foster success out there. Sather and Keenan were experts at the latter. Theres been 2 games with this team this year where they flat out weren't ready to play the game. Its fine tuning, but theres room for improvement.
This isn't the NFL, and its not the USA. One of the biggest jokes in pro sports is seeing baseball managers rip into players,officials, other managers, umpires as if they're some ****ing barking chihuahua. All bark and no bite. Thats what it always says to me. Mouthy little ****ers. (Not saying Kavis Reed with this) To me thats the lamest way to approach anybody. In baseball it seems as if its a scripted part of the game. "Oh look at the manager go ballistic". I dunno. I'm a peaceful person but if anybody ever came at me like that then I'd be a little unpredictable.
What I WAS talking about is theres several ways to motivate players, teach players, inform players, educate players and all I'm saying is that during game situations Reed leans heavily on the big stick approach which may distract people with half a temper and a lot of guys that play Pro ball have a pretty deep temper inside that can get boiling although you might not know it. For some players, and anybody remotely built like me, if you pull that **** they're going to be seeing red for the next hour or so rather than concentrating out there.
Different things work with different players and types of people. Reed is using too much of a one size fits all approach and it could eventually cost him. Its unimaginative and its limited. He could be more effective then pissing off a player. I can tell you he's managed to do that with Howard on occasion.
Again I'm a big Kavis Reed fan saying all of this. He could expand his bag of gameday tricks and management. Also, the Al Pacino motivational speech isn't working everytime. You gotta change it up, use different motivation on different days, say much different things, and use different strategies to foster success out there. Sather and Keenan were experts at the latter. Theres been 2 games with this team this year where they flat out weren't ready to play the game. Its fine tuning, but theres room for improvement.
You know, that's a load of crap. You make it sound like Reed jumps on guys after every play. I've gone to a few home games this year and last, and the guy stalks the sidelines intently, watching every detail, soaking it all in. He is completely immersed in what is happening in all facets of the game. There are times when a player gets blasted, and they totally deserve it, believe me. By now, we all know Howard has a short fuse, and definitely needed to put in line, as he was hurting the team with his shenanigans in one particular game, I remember. But, shortly after that, Reed stuck him out there again, albeit with a shorter leash. He doesn't backstap people and treats them like professionals and expects them to act the same way. I've also seen him congratulate people on the sidelines for a job well done.
You make it sound like he's a loose cannon, and he is anything but.
Does he have room to improve as a coach? Of course, everyone does, no matter how long or tenured they've been. But to paint him as a whack job whose message will soon fall short is ridiculous.You have no better idea of what he does to prepare this team than I do, so please stop pretending.
I love Kavis and think he's one of the best things about this team, but I'd prefer he kept his emotions a little better under control. However, that's not his style as he's a passionate guy. I'm OK with that. If that's our biggest problem with Kavis, that's pretty darn good. The players love him (even those who are the subject of his ire) and would run through a brick wall for him and that's what really matters.
I also love that he's the kind of guy who becomes known by his first name by virtually everyone. He's that kind of guy. I say if he wants to explode occasionally....
As Ed Hervey said on Gregors' show today, "I'm sure that wasn't the first time in his life that Joe Burnett got chewed out by a coach. It happens all the time". I've heard that Kavis Reed is perceived as a 'player's coach' by his guys. Sideline blowups like this fall into the category of tough love in the heat of the game. As I fan I far prefer Kavis' style to that of passive niceguy HC's like Danny Maciocia & Richie Hall who didn't seem to want to ruffle anybody's feathers.
I don't think Maciocia standing there not saying much was because he was passive. He was just perpetually confused and had no idea what was going on at any point in time. I'm surprised he could even find his way to the stadium.
I don't think Maciocia standing there not saying much was because he was passive. He was just perpetually confused and had no idea what was going on at any point in time. I'm surprised he could even find his way to the stadium.
No one could celebrate stopping the opposition on second-last down like Danny Mac.
No one could celebrate stopping the opposition on second-last down like Danny Mac.
It's ridiculous how good that team was to win despite DM's coaching. I still can't believe how much he was bailed out from one of the stupidest displays on a sports arena ever.
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I don't think Maciocia standing there not saying much was because he was passive. He was just perpetually confused and had no idea what was going on at any point in time. I'm surprised he could even find his way to the stadium.
Okay, this made me LOL. Thanks Kyle!
His fascination with Ray bordered on odd most nights.
Stories like the above always make me wonder how good someone would be if they actually played ball sooner.
Also tip my hat to Matt Norman for ending his rookie season to go back to school. Still trying to figure out how he can become a teacher with a one year program, but it's nice to see players being proactive about their post-playing careers.
So I watched a few minutes of the Lions-Bombers game again last night (and if only because seeing the bombers lose is always rewarding) and I couldn't help but notice one of the commentators just gushing over Joe Elliot. I thought it ridiculous the first time but the adjectives used were "superlative performance" "impressive considering what he's up against" "doing great" "marching the ball all over the field" "Winnipeg should go with the pass given how Elliot has done" all by the same commentator. (I honestly don't recognize who as I often manage to tune out commentary completely)
and I stopped and thought about that..
ON a game where Elliot if anything was futile, looked confused and scrambling on vast majority of plays, and went 20/42 in completions for 250yds, a good chunk of it late in the game.
I'm still wondering. Is it the manner in which a QB embodies effort that garners good grace (Elliot is about as Chuck Norris as they come, they seem to like this type in Winnipeg (all balls, no brains, and bluster) or is it what they actually contribute? I would expect a little more objective color commentary on a telecast.
My own take is Elliot isn't ready for primetime and will be a perennial losing QB at the helm who looks like "tries really hard..."
I don't think Maciocia standing there not saying much was because he was passive. He was just perpetually confused and had no idea what was going on at any point in time. I'm surprised he could even find his way to the stadium.
So I watched a few minutes of the Lions-Bombers game again last night (and if only because seeing the bombers lose is always rewarding) and I couldn't help but notice one of the commentators just gushing over Joe Elliot. I thought it ridiculous the first time but the adjectives used were "superlative performance" "impressive considering what he's up against" "doing great" "marching the ball all over the field" "Winnipeg should go with the pass given how Elliot has done" all by the same commentator. (I honestly don't recognize who as I often manage to tune out commentary completely)
and I stopped and thought about that..
ON a game where Elliot if anything was futile, looked confused and scrambling on vast majority of plays, and went 20/42 in completions for 250yds, a good chunk of it late in the game.
I'm still wondering. Is it the manner in which a QB embodies effort that garners good grace (Elliot is about as Chuck Norris as they come, they seem to like this type in Winnipeg (all balls, no brains, and bluster) or is it what they actually contribute? I would expect a little more objective color commentary on a telecast.
My own take is Elliot isn't ready for primetime and will be a perennial losing QB at the helm who looks like "tries really hard..."
So he had a bad game, big deal. I still think he's a better QB than Alex Brinks and just needs more experience.
So I watched a few minutes of the Lions-Bombers game again last night (and if only because seeing the bombers lose is always rewarding) and I couldn't help but notice one of the commentators just gushing over Joe Elliot. I thought it ridiculous the first time but the adjectives used were "superlative performance" "impressive considering what he's up against" "doing great" "marching the ball all over the field" "Winnipeg should go with the pass given how Elliot has done" all by the same commentator. (I honestly don't recognize who as I often manage to tune out commentary completely)
and I stopped and thought about that..
ON a game where Elliot if anything was futile, looked confused and scrambling on vast majority of plays, and went 20/42 in completions for 250yds, a good chunk of it late in the game.
I'm still wondering. Is it the manner in which a QB embodies effort that garners good grace (Elliot is about as Chuck Norris as they come, they seem to like this type in Winnipeg (all balls, no brains, and bluster) or is it what they actually contribute? I would expect a little more objective color commentary on a telecast.
My own take is Elliot isn't ready for primetime and will be a perennial losing QB at the helm who looks like "tries really hard..."
I thought he looked OK for a rookie.
He had lots of time to throw , much of it because he could scramble so well, but his receivers were not coming back to give him someone to throw to once he was in trouble.
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Nice. I wonder why he's here so early as his 10 days isn't up and there may still be NFL interest. Maybe he's committed to the CFL and to the Esks now. He'll be a great addition for the Labour Day rematch.
Who can blame Burnett for taking a shot at the limelight. On TV back home, the guy just wanted to send some love to the homefront.
I'm not bothered that it didn't work out, if it had, would Reed still have tee'd off on him. Reed should keep his mouth shut. Nobody wants to pay and see players "lay up" all the time anyways. Screw Kavis Reed, good on Burnett.
