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St. Louis' first and Chris Stewart for the return of Lars Eller, prospect Mac Bennett, and Montreal's second round pick this year.
Pass from the Habs.
The Blues pick is 27th while the Habs pick is the 33rd.
Rather have Eller over Stewart and dropping fron 33 to 27 isn't enough to entice me to trade Eller for Swewart.
Shane O'Brien comes to mind as a precedent. Maybe that was exceptional. But I can see the appeal of trading a late 1st round pick for a rugged young defenceman who can play immediately in the top 6 and address a particular roster need. Not saying that Peckham or Emelin are worth a late 1st round pick in this year's draft. But I could see a defenceman of that type getting one.
If Montreal is looking for a pick in the 25 to 30 range, I'd have no problem if Holmgren gave up the pick for someone like Lars Eller.
I can't see how Eller is not at least worth the rank he was initially picked at, i.e. 13th. He's been slowly but steadily developing. In a seemingly weak draft you can only wish your late 1st round pick turns into someone like Eller.
Kaberle doesn't crack the Ranger's top6. Last time he was dealt it was as a salary dump. Carolina made the mistake of signing him to a bad contract and Montreal was willing to take it. Sounds kind of familial except this time they didn't give up a solid prospect too.
You might as well as said Markov and his average 10 games a year because that's about as many as Kaberle would see in the Ranger's lineup.
So you're saying Markov for Rangers 1st 2012, 1st 2013, Stepan?
If Montreal is looking for a pick in the 25 to 30 range, I'd have no problem if Holmgren gave up the pick for someone like Lars Eller.
that's a good start, but what else do you not have a problem with Holmgren adding to get Eller. Because it'll take more than a late 1st. Especially if it could be had for lesser parts like a couple of 2nds
Montreal's young pieces aren't really for sale. Thing is, montreal has other useful pieces in prime age that are but they are worth more than a late 1st anyway. Habs should just add top 90 picks. I would not be opposed to habs trading down from 33rd and adding a mid 2nd and a 3rd in the process. Habs need to stock up.
Montreal's young pieces aren't really for sale. Thing is, montreal has other useful pieces in prime age that are but they are worth more than a late 1st anyway. Habs should just add top 90 picks. I would not be opposed to habs trading down from 33rd and adding a mid 2nd and a 3rd in the process. Habs need to stock up.
Maybe Gionta? Don't know if he's still worth that because of his injury, and the fact he's captain probably takes him off the market, but maybe there could be a few teams looking for some veteran leadership and secondary scoring willing to pay a late first for him.
I'd probably consider Vancouver's first for Cole if the Habs commit to a rebuild.
Would be fair, although I'd likely want young prospect and 2nd instead to speed rebuild.
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Maybe Gionta? Don't know if he's still worth that because of his injury, and the fact he's captain probably takes him off the market, but maybe there could be a few teams looking for some veteran leadership and secondary scoring willing to pay a late first for him.
Agreed on that. I think he has good value. He has only 2 years left as well. I can see a team taking him and adding him to a young core.
Curious as to how you arrived at that conclusion, seeing as how this is the first time that I -- or anyone else -- has mentioned the kid in a thread like this...
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I guess this guy sees Eller, his 16 goals, terrible linemates for most of the season, and lack of pp time while playing well defensively.
"This guy" sees a player that he wishes the Blues had never had to trade in the first place, coming back to be a versatile top-six LW and/or top-nine C for an up-and-coming club.
If Montreal's second-rounder is too close to the Blues' first-rounder for the value to work, I'm more than willing to take Nashville's second-rounder instead.
The Blues' first and Stewart for Eller, Bennett (whom one of the knowledgeable Hab fans says is still 2-3 years away, which is fine from a Blues' POV) and Nashville's second-round pick (owned by Montreal) in 2012.
I'd like to get Aaron Palushaj back, too... what would the Blues have to add to the package above to get Palushaj included in the deal?
Curious as to how you arrived at that conclusion, seeing as how this is the first time that I -- or anyone else -- has mentioned the kid in a thread like this...
"This guy" sees a player that he wishes the Blues had never had to trade in the first place, coming back to be a versatile top-six LW and/or top-nine C for an up-and-coming club.
If Montreal's second-rounder is too close to the Blues' first-rounder for the value to work, I'm more than willing to take Nashville's second-rounder instead.
The Blues' first and Stewart for Eller, Bennett (whom one of the knowledgeable Hab fans says is still 2-3 years away, which is fine from a Blues' POV) and Nashville's second-round pick (owned by Montreal) in 2012.
I'd like to get Aaron Palushaj back, too... what would the Blues have to add to the package above to get Palushaj included in the deal?
Look i wouldn't trade Eller straight up for Stewart and the Blue's 1st rd pick [ 27th ]
Eller is Pleks replacement down the road. I would hope that If Eller is going to be traded he will be a part of a package to get us a better player .
Curious as to how you arrived at that conclusion, seeing as how this is the first time that I -- or anyone else -- has mentioned the kid in a thread like this...
"This guy" sees a player that he wishes the Blues had never had to trade in the first place, coming back to be a versatile top-six LW and/or top-nine C for an up-and-coming club.
If Montreal's second-rounder is too close to the Blues' first-rounder for the value to work, I'm more than willing to take Nashville's second-rounder instead.
The Blues' first and Stewart for Eller, Bennett (whom one of the knowledgeable Hab fans says is still 2-3 years away, which is fine from a Blues' POV) and Nashville's second-round pick (owned by Montreal) in 2012.
I'd like to get Aaron Palushaj back, too... what would the Blues have to add to the package above to get Palushaj included in the deal?
I'll play along. I don't see Eller being moved IRL anytime soon, Bennett is at least 2-3 years away, but this is for fun so here goes.
STL 1st + Stewart (RFA rights) + Cole
for
Eller + Bennett + Palushaj (RFA rights) + NSH 2012 2nd
I wouldn't touch Chris Stewart, he's nothing like what he used to be with the Avalanches.
I would like Chris Stewart but I don't think habs want to give up players he'd play with. I'd give up a reasonable future deal for stewart as I think he adds to the young core but I'm not crazy about getting him for a young core piece.
