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01-22-2015, 09:37 PM
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That made no sense.

What you said was wrong. I was confused, but it was just you being wrong. Now that we've confirmed you were wrong I'm not confused.

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01-22-2015, 09:41 PM
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That made no sense.

What you said was wrong. I was confused, but it was just you being wrong. Now that we've confirmed you were wrong I'm not confused.
Jesus christ. I mistype top 3 pick instead of bottom 3 record and you think my entire point is wrong. Teams aren't tanking just to get a top 3 pick. Your system doesn't reduce tanking whatsoever.

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01-22-2015, 09:44 PM
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The highest likelihood is that the celtics pick 4-7 this year.

Not necessarily a bad thing. Can still easily get the best player of any individual draft in the NBA at that spot.

Danny has also shown a willingness to trade picks at any spot to acquire veteran impact players, so it might be much ado about nothing.

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01-23-2015, 12:30 AM
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Evan Turner ruins everything

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01-23-2015, 07:21 AM
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Terrible, terrible win.

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Evan Turner ruins everything
He did plenty of tank destroying in Philly aswell.

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01-23-2015, 01:37 PM
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Jesus christ. I mistype top 3 pick instead of bottom 3 record and you think my entire point is wrong. Teams aren't tanking just to get a top 3 pick. Your system doesn't reduce tanking whatsoever.
First, you didn't mistype. You were wrong. As evidence by initially defending it and not modifying it.

And yes, my system obviously does reduce tanking. It doesn't eliminate it entirely. Nothing ever will short of the "Wheel" or "non-weighted" lottery.

You were wrong. It's okay. Everyone is sometimes.

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01-23-2015, 01:45 PM
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That doesn't stop tanking though. The Celtics have no shot at a top 3 pick this year. But we're pretty much tanking. At least the gm is. No players on any team lose intentionally. And Philly would be doing the same thing they're doing even if they couldn't draft top 3. They wouldn't have acquired good players because youth and a top 4 pick is better than a handful of extra wins. And, again, the players aren't the ones losing intentionally.

I still like the idea that was (not so seriously) floated around a year ago. Every team rotates through all the draft positions (not in order 1-30, but in some specific order that makes sense) regardless of team performance. There'd have to be a plan for how to include possible expansion but it could work, it'd be fair and it would completely eliminate tanking.

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Jesus christ. I mistype top 3 pick instead of bottom 3 record and you think my entire point is wrong. Teams aren't tanking just to get a top 3 pick. Your system doesn't reduce tanking whatsoever.
Then that is the biggest typo known to man and even it was a typo then that sentence makes no sense at all.

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01-23-2015, 02:12 PM
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First, you didn't mistype. You were wrong. As evidence by initially defending it and not modifying it.

And yes, my system obviously does reduce tanking. It doesn't eliminate it entirely. Nothing ever will short of the "Wheel" or "non-weighted" lottery.

You were wrong. It's okay. Everyone is sometimes.
You really think I'm that stupid that I don't know that there's a lottery? I follow the NBA as much as the other sports. I know there's a lottery and that every non-playoff team at least has a small chance of getting a top 3 pick. I obviously meant to say bottom 3 record. Or top 3 odds.

Your system doesn't reduce tanking whatsoever. If the 76ers couldn't get a top 3 pick this year, how would their season be played any differently? What motivation would they have had to keep a guy like Thad Young? Or draft guys who were more NBA ready than Embiid or Saric? Or sign a vet like Deng? What motivation would they have to win now? Decreasing the upside of tanking doesn't reduce the motivation to tank at all because the result of tanking without a top 3 pick on the table is still much higher than the result of trying to win with a roster like the 76ers'.

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Then that is the biggest typo known to man and even it was a typo then that sentence makes no sense at all.
Really? Saying pick instead of odds of a pick is the biggest typo known to man? What doesn't make sense? Who doesn't know that there's a lottery?

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01-23-2015, 02:20 PM
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Some people just can't admit when they are wrong. Sad really. We'll just have to move on.

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01-23-2015, 02:29 PM
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And some people belabor one small mistake even though it makes no difference in what I was trying to say. Frustrating really.

Obviously I was wrong when I said the Celtics have no chance at a top 3 pick.

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Some people just can't admit when they are wrong. Sad really. We'll just have to move on.
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01-23-2015, 02:32 PM
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I'd love to stop rewarding teams with the best picks because they keep sucking. Edmonton? **** em. The 76ers? **** em.

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01-23-2015, 02:38 PM
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I'd love to stop rewarding teams with the best picks because they keep sucking. Edmonton? **** em. The 76ers? **** em.
I give NHL a pass on this but there is an overall fundamental flaw the NBA when the only way you can get better is to get worse.

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And some people belabor one small mistake even though it makes no difference in what I was trying to say. Frustrating really.

Obviously I was wrong when I said the Celtics have no chance at a top 3 pick.
Could have just said they have "pretty much" no chance and you would have been bang on. Nitpickers will be nitpickers.





So currently as the standings are we have a 4% chance at the first pick, 5% chance at the second pick, and 6% chance at the third pick. Not exactly encouraging until you get into the worst 4 teams in the league, and currently constructed and coached, we're just not built that poorly.

Trade any combination of Turner, Prince, Thornton, Bass at the deadline though, and then things get interesting.


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01-23-2015, 06:59 PM
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We are 2.5 games out of a playoff spot.



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oh god...these wins are not good.

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Second consecutive win. Wtf is going on? They should be tanking, not winning.

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2 games out of the 8th seed








TAYSHAUN PRINCE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS NONSENSE

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