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04-25-2014, 01:09 AM
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If he regularly played LW that year, how come he made the 1st AST at the C position? Did the voters screw up his position that year a la Ovechkin?
Kind of. He played LW but was listed as C.

I'd say more similar to Zetterberg being listed as LW even in seasons where he mostly lined up at C.

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I don't see any way you can say the O6 D were better than the late 70s and late 80s/early 90s. You're listing a bunch of players whose careers didn't even overlap - Quackenbush was done by the time Doug Harvey entered his prime, let alone Pierre Pilote, who hit his prime basically after Kelly and Harvey.

I would say:

C: 1980s/early 1990s, possibly followed by the late 1920s
RW: 1950s easily
LW: 1950s/60s or late 2000s (Ovechkin's prime with Kovalchuk, Heatley, Parise, etc)
D: late 80s/early 90s, followed by late 70s
G: late 90s, followed by late 50s/early 60s
Even though I agree with the early 90s being the strongest for individual defencemen it is kind of interesting to consider the position of defence strongest during the time that teams let in the most goals in NHL history.

Maybe hockey was at it's most individual during those times after expansion and before more team-focused defence so that individual players just got to shine more while the overall "D" was really really bad.

If we interpret the OP as overall level of defence, the answer has to be something else. Maybe the 06? Dead puck? Now?

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04-25-2014, 10:03 AM
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Offensive vs Defensive

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Even though I agree with the early 90s being the strongest for individual defencemen it is kind of interesting to consider the position of defence strongest during the time that teams let in the most goals in NHL history.

Maybe hockey was at it's most individual during those times after expansion and before more team-focused defence so that individual players just got to shine more while the overall "D" was really really bad.

If we interpret the OP as overall level of defence, the answer has to be something else. Maybe the 06? Dead puck? Now?
Offensive strength of defensmen vs defensive strength.

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I think of the 1930's as the age of the defenseman (e.g., Eddie Shore, Sprague Cleghorn, Earl Seibert, Lionel Conacher, Dit Clapper, Ching Johnson, Hap Day, Ebbie Goodfellow, Babe Siebert, Art Coulter, etc), a rough-and-tumble time of blueline excellence.

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Individual vs Collective

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Offensive strength of defensmen vs defensive strength.
Or, individual strength of defensmen vs defensive strength of the collective.

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04-25-2014, 05:18 PM
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Left Wing looked very solid from the mid 80's to 2000...

Shanahan
Robitaille
Tkachuk
Kariya
Andreychuk
Goulet
Tikkanen
Leclair
Roberts
Graves
S. Thomas
W. Clark
Smyth
Corson
Whitney
Bellows
Propp
K. Stevens
Mats Naslund
Tonelli

You also had a few overlapping years from guys like Patrik Elias and Marcus Naslund.

There's no Bobby Hull or Ted Lindsay on that list, but that's a lot of talent.

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