When Rafalski retired, Holland had $21M to spend on 7 players...2 forwards, 4 d-men, and 1 goalie.
At forward...he signed Miller and Eaves. No room for Jagr. No room for Handzus or Steckel. No jobs for Nyquist. Coincidentally, after we lost to San Jose (again), Babcock specifically said we needed to upgrade our top 6. I guess Holland wasn't listening. Low cap hits for Miller and Eaves. But overall a complete failure.
On defence...he signed Lidstrom, White, Ericsson, and then instead of giving Smith the job he signed Commodore. And now used a #1 pick to get Quincey and commit $3.125M to him for next season. So if you weren't sure on Kindl at #6 and were on the lookout for an "upgrade" like Quincey, then why bother wasting $1M on Commodore. That could have just been Smith. Overall, a failure.
In net...Conklin. Failure.
Holland didn't upgrade anything. Pav, Howard, and shootouts are the only 3 reasons we even have a playoff spot. Where is Semin? Nash? Selanne? How did Pitt add Neal and San Jose add Burns? Even Vancouver added a 50-point guy like Booth. They all made aggressive moves and were willing to part with good assets to address needs. Upgrade this team for once.
Just a thought. I wouldn't do it.
But-- LA is shopping Brown and needs defense.
Kindl won't get the job done.
Stuart wants to go west.
Stuart + Tatar for Brown
Just a thought. I wouldn't do it.
But-- LA is shopping Brown and needs defense.
Kindl won't get the job done.
Stuart wants to go west.
Stuart + Tatar for Brown
Just a thought. I wouldn't do it.
But-- LA is shopping Brown and needs defense.
Kindl won't get the job done.
Stuart wants to go west.
Stuart + Tatar for Brown
Why would LA accept a UFA and decent prospect for their captain?
Either upgrade the prospect to Smith
or
Add another roster player like Helm or Abby
or
Include a #1, wait, that was already wasted.
When Rafalski retired, Holland had $21M to spend on 7 players...2 forwards, 4 d-men, and 1 goalie.
At forward...he signed Miller and Eaves. No room for Jagr. No room for Handzus or Steckel. No jobs for Nyquist. Coincidentally, after we lost to San Jose (again), Babcock specifically said we needed to upgrade our top 6. I guess Holland wasn't listening. Low cap hits for Miller and Eaves. But overall a complete failure.
On defence...he signed Lidstrom, White, Ericsson, and then instead of giving Smith the job he signed Commodore. And now used a #1 pick to get Quincey and commit $3.125M to him for next season. So if you weren't sure on Kindl at #6 and were on the lookout for an "upgrade" like Quincey, then why bother wasting $1M on Commodore. That could have just been Smith. Overall, a failure.
In net...Conklin. Failure.
Holland didn't upgrade anything. Pav, Howard, and shootouts are the only 3 reasons we even have a playoff spot. Where is Semin? Nash? Selanne? How did Pitt add Neal and San Jose add Burns? Even Vancouver added a 50-point guy like Booth. They all made aggressive moves and were willing to part with good assets to address needs. Upgrade this team for once.
Handzus? Really? The same Handzus that San Jose fans want demoted to the 4th line at best. You do realize that Drew Miller, who Holland signed for 1/3 of what Handzus makes is having a better season? More goals, more points, more time on the PK. How does Handzus help Detroit's top 6 at all? Were you just hoping to randomly throw names out there and hope that you didn't get called on your BS? Eaves has been injured all year long - never got a chance to get going. Even mentioning that on a GM is just flat out stupid. Stupid.
Why bother 1M on Commodore over Smith? How would Smith look in Commodore's current role? You know, sitting in the pressbox game after game. That's where you want Smith? Rather than playing huge minutes in GR and having a great developmental season?
In net? Conklin - a failure? Absolutely. Signing Joey Mac to a 2-way deal, however, how'd that work out? Seems like the backup to the backup plan didn't fail now did it? Look at all of the teams with goaltending issues right now in the league. Guess what chump, Detroit is not one of them.
I honestly can't tell if you're a giant troll or a giant idiot. All you do is use hindsight and play it off as your own brilliance. You probably think that you could do a better job than Babcock or Holland, but when it comes down to business you wouldn't know the first thing about coaching or managing a peewee hockey team let alone a NHL club. Why don't you teach us a little bit about structure in hockey, coach? Let's here some of the x's and o's that you'd stress and teach, coach. How are we going to run our practices? How do you deal with different personalities and players that range from ages 23-41? You don't know anything, so stop acting like you do. I don't agree with everything that Babcock and Holland do, but i can't help but defend them against people like you.
Handzus? Really? The same Handzus that San Jose fans want demoted to the 4th line at best. You do realize that Drew Miller, who Holland signed for 1/3 of what Handzus makes is having a better season? More goals, more points, more time on the PK. How does Handzus help Detroit's top 6 at all? Were you just hoping to randomly throw names out there and hope that you didn't get called on your BS? Eaves has been injured all year long - never got a chance to get going. Even mentioning that on a GM is just flat out stupid. Stupid.
Why bother 1M on Commodore over Smith? How would Smith look in Commodore's current role? You know, sitting in the pressbox game after game. That's where you want Smith? Rather than playing huge minutes in GR and having a great developmental season?
In net? Conklin - a failure? Absolutely. Signing Joey Mac to a 2-way deal, however, how'd that work out? Seems like the backup to the backup plan didn't fail now did it? Look at all of the teams with goaltending issues right now in the league. Guess what chump, Detroit is not one of them.
I honestly can't tell if you're a giant troll or a giant idiot. All you do is use hindsight and play it off as your own brilliance. You probably think that you could do a better job than Babcock or Holland, but when it comes down to business you wouldn't know the first thing about coaching or managing a peewee hockey team let alone a NHL club. Why don't you teach us a little bit about structure in hockey, coach? Let's here some of the x's and o's that you'd stress and teach, coach. How are we going to run our practices? How do you deal with different personalities and players that range from ages 23-41? You don't know anything, so stop acting like you do. I don't agree with everything that Babcock and Holland do, but i can't help but defend them against people like you.
Handzus? Really? The same Handzus that San Jose fans want demoted to the 4th line at best. You do realize that Drew Miller, who Holland signed for 1/3 of what Handzus makes is having a better season? More goals, more points, more time on the PK. How does Handzus help Detroit's top 6 at all? Were you just hoping to randomly throw names out there and hope that you didn't get called on your BS? Eaves has been injured all year long - never got a chance to get going. Even mentioning that on a GM is just flat out stupid. Stupid.
Why bother 1M on Commodore over Smith? How would Smith look in Commodore's current role? You know, sitting in the pressbox game after game. That's where you want Smith? Rather than playing huge minutes in GR and having a great developmental season?
In net? Conklin - a failure? Absolutely. Signing Joey Mac to a 2-way deal, however, how'd that work out? Seems like the backup to the backup plan didn't fail now did it? Look at all of the teams with goaltending issues right now in the league. Guess what chump, Detroit is not one of them.
I honestly can't tell if you're a giant troll or a giant idiot. All you do is use hindsight and play it off as your own brilliance. You probably think that you could do a better job than Babcock or Holland, but when it comes down to business you wouldn't know the first thing about coaching or managing a peewee hockey team let alone a NHL club. Why don't you teach us a little bit about structure in hockey, coach? Let's here some of the x's and o's that you'd stress and teach, coach. How are we going to run our practices? How do you deal with different personalities and players that range from ages 23-41? You don't anything, so stop acting like you do. I don't agree with everything that Babcock and Holland do, but i can't help but defend them against people like you.
Who said Handzus helps our top 6. The fact that you assumed that says a lot. Handzus is 6"5, wins faceoffs, and chips in 25-30 points. That's the kind of guy I want on my 4th line. Instead, we have Emmerton and Homer. Not rocket science.
Who said Smith sits as the 7th guy. I didn't say that. But you think I did.
The rest of your post attacking my coaching credentials seems uncalled for when I've never claimed I want that job.
Eklund just posted that there's talk Detroit is trying to get Samuelsson back, which is something that's been tossed around here before. I realize it's only Eklund, but if that were to go down I would be inconsolable.
First off I can't see Florida trading assets so that means this is likely a non-starter. With that being said a trade being a non-starter has never stopped Hockey Buzz before! Even if the Panthers were willing to trade Sammy I really don't see where he fits in our lineup. When he was here he was primarily a third line guy who could acquit himself reasonably well when he was given some time on the second line. Right now our second and third lines are actually pretty decent. The main need is a 4th line center. A luxury would be to acquire a top 6 forward like a Dave Jones or someone along those lines, assuming they're available. Sammy just isn't a great fit at this point in time unless you do a straight up trade for Hudler. Is that possible? Seems highly unlikely IMO.
Who said Handzus helps our top 6. The fact that you assumed that says a lot. Handzus is 6"5, wins faceoffs, and chips in 25-30 points. That's the kind of guy I want on my 4th line. Instead, we have Emmerton and Homer. Not rocket science.
Who said Smith sits as the 7th guy. I didn't say that. But you think I did.
The rest of your post attacking my coaching credentials seems uncalled for when I've never claimed I want that job.
Who cares if Handzus is 6'5'' when he doesn't hit at all? Just an FYI; Datsyuk, Helm, Filppula and Abdelkader are all players who have taken a significant amount of face-offs AND have a higher winning percentage than Handzus while Zetterberg is within a percent of Handzus.
Who cares if Handzus is 6'5'' when he doesn't hit at all? Just an FYI; Datsyuk, Helm, Filppula and Abdelkader are all players who have taken a significant amount of face-offs AND have a higher winning percentage than Handzus while Zetterberg is within a percent of Handzus.
Well, the real tip off here was that he said Handzus would score 30 points on the 4th line. Big Handy is getting 15 minutes a night in San Jose and he'll be lucky to hit 30 this season.
Who cares if Handzus is 6'5'' when he doesn't hit at all? Just an FYI; Datsyuk, Helm, Filppula and Abdelkader are all players who have taken a significant amount of face-offs AND have a higher winning percentage than Handzus while Zetterberg is within a percent of Handzus.
He has more hits than Emmerton, the guy he would have replaced. Also more than Mule, Homer, Zee, Fil.
He would lead all of our forwards in blocked shots, again, that's where he helps our PK.
He would trail just Pav, Zee, and Fil in takeaways, again, that's what big defensive centremen do.
He's not a perfect player, but he'd help our 4th line. He's an upgrade on Emmerton. Steckel would have been even better.
