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09-13-2017, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BenchBrawl View Post
I don't understand what you mean.

Here's Weber's Norris record from the OP:

Shea Weber

08-09: 4th
09-10: 7th
10-11: 2nd
11-12: 2nd
12-13: 8th
13-14: 3rd
14-15: 4th
15-16: 10th
16-17: 7th
I think his point is that anything below the top 5 or 6 is meaningless, because it is accomplished with only a small number of votes. In Weber's case, his 10th place finish in 15-16 was accomplished with his name on 9 of 150 ballots, and his 7th place finish in 16-17 was accomplished with his name on 45 of 167 ballots. I think one can argue either way about the significance of 15-16, but I think his 16-17 finish was definitely significant.

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09-13-2017, 12:56 PM
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Yeah, I had mistakenly overlooked his 2016/17 season because of a quick but incomplete cut-and-paste job. His recent finish other than that was 10th.

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09-13-2017, 02:08 PM
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Erik Karlsson is going to, barring major injuries, be at least a borderline top 10 defensemen of all time IMHO.

I got to see him live this past year for the first time in Pittsburgh and when you look at the massive improvements he made as a defender all around, and then incredible post season run he had (on literally one good foot), its hard to not envision him as an all time great when his career is all said and done.

Now, apparently he might miss the first month of the season which could derail yet another Norris run, but if there is one Dman who could miss 10-15 games and still contend for a major trophy it's EK.

I think the only thing that can really prevent him from reaching the heights I'm talking about is constant injury and being stuck on a marginal team which obviously hinders his postseason projections to one degree or another, although 2017 was proof just how dominant he is and why leaving him off top 3 Hart ballots is absurd given how much he drives his own team relative to his peers (dman or forward be damned).

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09-19-2017, 05:47 PM
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Active Dmen on the list:
(list may not be 100% accurate unless Burns and Karlsson tied for 2nd place in voting in 15-16)

Francois Beauchemin

12-13: 4th

Jay Bouwemeester

06-07: 11th

Brent Burns

07-08: 12th
15-16: 2nd
16-17: 1st

Dustin Byfuglien

10-11: 7th
14-15: 12th
16-17: 12th

John Carlson

14-15: 10th

Zdeno Chara

02-03: 7th
03-04: 2nd
05-06: 4th
07-08: 3rd
08-09: 1st
09-10: 8th
10-11: 3rd
11-12: 3rd
12-13: 5th
13-14: 2nd

Drew Doughty

09-10: 3rd
12-13: 9th
13-14: 6th
14-15: 2nd
15-16: 1st
16-17: 7th

Oliver Ekman-Larsson

12-13: 7th
15-16: 9th

Mark Giordano

13-14: 10th
14-15: 6th
16-17: 8th

Dan Girardi

11-12: 6th

Mike Green

07-08: 7th
08-09: 2nd
09-10: 2nd

Dougie Hamilton

16-17: 9th

Victor Hedman

13-14: 9th
15-16: 7th
16-17: 3rd

Roman Josi

14-15: 5th
15-16: 5th
16-17: 11th

Erik Karlsson

11-12: 1st
13-14: 7th
14-15: 1st
15-16: 2nd
16-17: 2nd

Duncan Keith

07-08: 11th
08-09: 6th
09-10: 1st
10-11: 9th
12-13: 6th
13-14: 1st
14-15: 7th
15-16: 11th
16-17: 4th

John Klingberg
15-16: 6th

Niklas Kronwall

12-13: 10th

10-11: 6th
11-12: 9th
12-13: 3rd
14-15: 8th
15-16: 4th

Andrei Markov

07-08: 6th
08-09: 6th
12-13: 13th

Ryan McDonagh

13-14: 8th
14-15: 11th

Matt Niskanen

13-14: 11th

Dion Phaneuf

05-06: 8th
06-07: 6th
07-08: 2nd
08-09: 12th
12-13: 11th

Alex Pietrangelo

11-12: 4th
12-13: 14th
13-14: 5th

Justin Schultz

16-17: 10th

Brent Seabrook

09-10: 13th

Jared Spurgeon
16-17: 13th

Anton Stralman

14-15: 13th

Mark Streit

08-09: 8th
09-10: 10th

P.K. Subban

12-13: 1st
14-15: 3rd

Ryan Suter

09-10: 11th
11-12: 8th
12-13: 2nd
13-14: 4th
14-15: 9th
15-16: 8th
16-17: 5th

Shea Weber

08-09: 4th
09-10: 7th
10-11: 2nd
11-12: 2nd
12-13: 8th
13-14: 3rd
14-15: 4th
15-16: 10th
16-17: 7th

Denis Wideman

08-09: 11th

Keith Yandle

10-11: 5th
12-13: 12th

It's so interesting seeing the dominant Dman per era (via the vote)....

Doug Harvey - Early 50's to the 60's
Pierre Pilote - 60's to the Late 60's
Bobby Orr - Late 60's to Mid-70's
Dennis Potvin - Mid 70's to Early 80's
Ray Bourque - Mid 80's to Late 90's
Nik Lidstrom - Late 90's to the early 10's
We can sort of see it's Karlsson's era now..

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