Okay ... let's say that NYC wants a sea wall

[Vyacheslav]

Originally Posted by Big Phil

You know, technically the whole "we" thing started when I was talking about the natives selling Manhattan. I am guessing there aren't many natives on this board. So the "we" I was talking about would be the Europeans who came over here. So yeah, technically that applies to me, in a way.

Wow so does this we extend from Alaska to Chile? Also, you've said we a lot longer than that. The Philipines? India? Australia?

For the record I'm 1/8th native so you're not entirely correct

[invictus]

Originally Posted by Vyacheslav

I don't have a problem with the federal government paying its portion for the wall. We live in a nation here, not a bunch of independent states. That experiment failed twice. The Articles of Confederation and the defeat of the South in the Civil War. New Yorkers are Americans first and New Yorkers second.

Agreed 100%

[kingsholygrail]

Originally Posted by NYRSinceBirth

Free rider issues come of a concern, this looks like a gov't project with some private sponsorship dabbled in.

Problem is, how necessary is it?

I wasn't aware New York regularly got hit by Sandy sized storms.

[NYRSinceBirth]

Originally Posted by glovesave_35

I doubt the Dutch settlers in the 1600's were thinking that far ahead.

I'm talking building, infrastructure, not geographical location. You choose the location, but design the city.

[NYRSinceBirth]

Originally Posted by kingsholygrail

Problem is, how necessary is it?

I wasn't aware New York regularly got hit by Sandy sized storms.

That's the same thought process that gets first responders in trouble when rescuing people that didn't want to evacuate. It's all about that one time, not the norm. Then again, I don't even want a wall.

[kingsholygrail]

Originally Posted by NYRSinceBirth

That's the same thought process that gets first responders in trouble when rescuing people that didn't want to evacuate. It's all about that one time, not the norm. Then again, I don't even want a wall.

Not worth investing the capital to attempt to prevent a storm surge from future storms.

Why not retrofit buildings in St. Louis which sits on top of a major fault line? All it takes is another earthquake there like they had in the 19th century and the city goes to dust.

[NYRSinceBirth]

Originally Posted by kingsholygrail

Not worth investing the capital to attempt to prevent a storm surge from future storms.

Why not retrofit buildings in St. Louis which sits on top of a major fault line? All it takes is another earthquake there like they had in the 19th century and the city goes to dust.

I already said I don't want a wall! Please, don't force a wall upon my city!

[rebel diamond]

It's probably pretty obvious the New York, and other coastal cities, probably need some better flood protection due to rising sea levelsand more frequent storms. Flood gates on the subway might be a start? But the bigger issue is a bit ridiculous. How about you take that $60-100 billion and invest it in stopping or slowing climate change. That would have a bit more of an effect than building a wall in the ocean.