Losing is fun isn't it?Ever notice Burke hasn't done anything he said he would?He knows fans like you will always back him up no matter what his true agenda is.
Personal attacks solve nothing. Vent about the team all you want, we are in a bad position for this season. Stay on topic please. It's ironic that the news article said Leaf fans have reached their limit. I think they meant with the team and not each other.
Personal attacks solve nothing. Vent about the team all you want, we are in a bad position for this season. Stay on topic please. It's ironic that the news article says Leaf fans have reached their limit. I think they meant with the team and not each other.
Not really. I'm disappointed and mad because we're out of the playoffs but I, and probably most Leaf fans, haven't reached their limit yet. Despite the collapse, there is a still a good collection of young players and a likely top 10 draft pick that will help us in the re-build. I don't like Burke at all, but he's done a decent job considering he had basically nothing. You look at other clubs in their disaster state, they at least have one 1st liner or a #1 goalie or a potential top end talent in the farm system, Burke had none of that and it will take some time to build it up. Leafs future isn't bleak unlike in 2008 where we had almost nothing. You got a great young player in Kessel, you got a good defensemen in Dion (not fan of him being a captain though), you got a potential top pairing defensemen in Gardiner, and guys like Kadri, Colborne, Schenn etc... who could all be core players for the Leafs.
It's not like you need to blow the team up or anything. There are good pieces there but you just gotta keep building on it. The hard part will be, finding a #1 center and goalie though. Those are pieces that are usually developed internally so whether it's just their draft this year to find that #1 center or somehow trading for one, Leafs have gotta find that. Leafs have an abundance of goaltenders and hopefully, they can get some luck and hit on one of them. It will take a few years before we become a Stanley Cup contender but I think we could be a playoff team next year. Hell, I honestly think we would a playoff team this year if we got some goaltending.
Leafs just really need to find themselves a #1 center/goaltender but easier said than done.
About as many people as who care for your whining.
Difference is, I don't live and breathe negativity for a hobby I choose to watch.
There ya go. But actually calling out most of the fan base with an sweeping asinine generalization is breathing a lot of hot, negative air that the board could do without
The whole article is a real piece of work, but this is the best excerpt. "and staying loyal to the logo, however many times it is changed to sell more shirts." Yeah and other NHL teams don't change their logo, hell all sports teams change their logo to sell more merch. What a moronic comment.
Chicago, Montreal, Detroit and New York have rarely changed their jerseys and for a large part of their existence have gone with the same sweater. Boston has majorly switched theirs 3 times in existence? Toronto's switched their sweaters 4 or 5 times in the last decade if I remember right, not including the alternates added.
He's not saying "TORONTO ONLY TEAM DAT CHANGES ITS JERSEYS WHAT A BOTH OF LOSERS" but rather that people get charged a lot of money to be a Toronto fan. Ticket prices, let alone availability, is insane, the amount of Leafs merch pumped into the market and the constant jersey switches, etc. it all takes money out of their pockets. And you might say "WELL IF YOU DONT LIKE IT STOP BEING A FAN" but those people are just as much fans as the people who are saying that ****, they're just more aware to the fact that they're paying a lot of hard-earned money to be a Leaf fan and cheer this team on, and they aren't being rewarded by it.
It's the 4th largest city in North America and it's one two titles in 20 years. The basketball team is nothing to be proud of at all, the baseball team is getting better and the only source of pride and the hockey team has come close 4 times in the last 20 years to making the final. Not the cup, just the final. There's plenty of reason to be upset. This team needs a number 1 defender, it needs to play harder, it needs a number 1 center and a number 1 goaltender. And they've missed the playoffs for 8 years, most teams would have fixed these issues, especially in an organization as well-funded and closely watched as the Maple Leafs.
People want to laugh at Glen Sather for how big of an idiot he is, but his team has become much better in a much shorter time then the Leafs. Callahan, Richards, Torts, Staal, Gaborik all joined the organization since the Leafs have been out of the playoffs. Even role players like Boyle, Prust, Rupp were all acquired during the Leafs lack of playoffs. That is a team that got much of its work done on smart drafting, trading and signings. Look at Toronto, three GM's (technically) and 8 years later and they are no where near the level the Rangers are at.
People want to laugh at Glen Sather for how big of an idiot he is, but his team has become much better in a much shorter time then the Leafs. Callahan, Richards, Torts, Staal, Gaborik all joined the organization since the Leafs have been out of the playoffs. Even role players like Boyle, Prust, Rupp were all acquired during the Leafs lack of playoffs. That is a team that got much of its work done on smart drafting, trading and signings. Look at Toronto, three GM's (technically) and 8 years later and they are no where near the level the Rangers are at.
Plenty of reason to be mad.
The Rangers upswing happened after years of fans calling for Sather to be fired and had that happened then someone else would have benefited from his drafting of guys like Lundqvist, Callahan, and Dubinsky.
The Rangers upswing happened after years of fans calling for Sather to be fired and had that happened then someone else would have benefited from his drafting of guys like Lundqvist, Callahan, and Dubinsky.
The upswing happened after the replacement of their lead scout. But again, fans are complacent for no reason. Dubinsky had no effect this year really. Hank was a big plus, but you could argue a lottery pick is equivalent to him.
But seriously it's been 8 years and there's absolutely no improvement, just a swap in age and Burke made a serious gaffe not selling and he'll probably make a mistake this offseason. People need to be moved.
I don't know, I could easily see fans being upset. The Pittsburgh rebuild didn't take 8 years, niether did Chicago's.
The upswing happened after the replacement of their lead scout. But again, fans are complacent for no reason. Dubinsky had no effect this year really. Hank was a big plus, but you could argue a lottery pick is equivalent to him.
But seriously it's been 8 years and there's absolutely no improvement, just a swap in age and Burke made a serious gaffe not selling and he'll probably make a mistake this offseason. People need to be moved.
I don't know, I could easily see fans being upset. The Pittsburgh rebuild didn't take 8 years, niether did Chicago's.
Burke wouldn't get a Crosby nor a Malkin even if he picked first in every draft since he was GM, let alone both.
Sather has won two playoff series in 11 years as GM, in his 12th year he finally has a team that could be called a contender.
Burke wouldn't get a Crosby nor a Malkin even if he picked first in every draft since he was GM, let alone both.
Sather has won two playoff series in 11 years as GM, in his 12th year he finally has a team that could be called a contender.
People would much rather have that then 7 playoffless years.
If Burke drafted with his 1st round picks he could easily get Seguin, RNH (assuming we're going Pittsburgh route of having 2 1st rounders, a 2nd overall, and a 5th overall) then possibly Yakupov or Murray, then a D-man.
The upswing happened after the replacement of their lead scout. But again, fans are complacent for no reason. Dubinsky had no effect this year really. Hank was a big plus, but you could argue a lottery pick is equivalent to him.
But seriously it's been 8 years and there's absolutely no improvement, just a swap in age and Burke made a serious gaffe not selling and he'll probably make a mistake this offseason. People need to be moved.
I don't know, I could easily see fans being upset. The Pittsburgh rebuild didn't take 8 years, niether did Chicago's.
its because those rebuilds were done right, this team did quick fixes to try and get this team in the playoffs but never worked. AT LEAST now we have some prospects coming up and our future is most definitly looking brighter than the JFJ days,
would be interesting to see the reaction if fans didn't show up to the final home game
i mean noticeable empty seats , like 10k crowd
that would be awesome. I am a huge fan and can never afford/have the time to go and i almost bought tickets for 40$ each lol... and i was regreting even putting a bid on them haha
its because those rebuilds were done right, this team did quick fixes to try and get this team in the playoffs but never worked. AT LEAST now we have some prospects coming up and our future is most definitly looking brighter than the JFJ days,
The JFJ days have supplied us with more NHLers then the Burke day's have supplied us with. Reimer, Gunnarsson, Stalberg (kind of), Kulemin and Frattin compared to Schenn and Kadri in the draft.
Yeah Kessel, Lupul and Phaneuf help but it's not like Burke has pushed us so much farther in the same amount of years.
