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Erik Karlsson signs first professional contract with Frolunda of the SEL. Probably worth around $40,000 per.

http://frolundaindians.com/artikel/35356/


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Erik Karlsson signs first professional contract with Frolunda of the SEL. Probably worth around $40,000 per.

http://frolundaindians.com/artikel/35356/
Wonderful. Does this mean he'll likely stick in the top league or that he can still bounce around between the top two leagues?

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He should be loaned to the second-tier league to start the year, since Frolunda already has a ton of forwards signed. Might get a look later on.

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Mark Alt signs with Philly. We'll see how this one plays out.

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Is Mahalak hurt, or just now a backup in Plymouth?

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I just observed an incredible stat about Chris Terry. He is 15 for 39 (40.5%) in the shootout in his career at the AHL level with 5 game winners. While scoring is considerably higher in the SO at the minor level, that is pretty incredible. I wonder if that kind of competency will make him more valuable to give a look on the lower lines.

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Greg Hofmann, C/W – HC Davos (NLA)
Drafted by the Carolina Hurricanes
4th round, 103rd overall, 2011

Hofmann had a breakout season in Switzerland this year, posting 16 goals and 11 assists through 49 games with Davos. Like many Swiss teams, Davos was the beneficiary of the NHL lockout, with Joe Thornton and Rick Nash among those to play big minutes with the team early in the year. So the fact Hofmann was able to contribute as a regular member of the lineup as a 20-year-old is even more impressive.

Hofmann remains a long-term project for the Carolina Hurricanes. He possesses breakneck speed, but needs to keep getting stronger in order to succeed at the North American game.

Link: On the Rush, March 2013 - Posted 4/1/13 - hockeysfuture.com
Just noticed this but it may have already been posted elsewhere but I couldn't find it in this thread.

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The thing with Hofmann is will he sign or not?

Gotta do it this spring.

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As long as he doesn't have Frederik Andersen's agent he might.

Can we sign him to a low ELC (with a big enough signing bonus to keep him interested) and give him a tryout in Charlotte? If that doesn't work out he can still be 'loaned' back to his old team right? I can't think of an occasion where JR has done this though : /

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continuing from part III: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=722927

Forwards:
NameTeamLeagueGPGAPTS+/-PIM
Nicolas BlanchardCharlotte CheckersAHL61459-13124
 Carolina HurricanesNHL6000ev20
Zach BoychukCharlotte CheckersAHL49232043+816
 Carolina HurricanesNHL1000ev0
 Pittsburgh PenguinsNHL7000-22
 Nashville PredatorsNHL5112+14
Drayson BowmanCharlotte CheckersAHL3714822+221
 Carolina HurricanesNHL37325-717
Brendan CollierValley WarriorsEJHL43142842 27
Evgenii DadonovDonbass DonetskKHL52142438+812
 RussiaEHT3000+10
Zac DalpeCharlotte CheckersAHL54212142+1612
 Carolina HurricanesNHL10123-70
Phillip di GiuseppeMichigan WolverinesCCHA4091928 32
Gregory HofmannHC DavosSwiss49161127-420
AJ JenksCharlotte CheckersAHL12123-212
 Florida EverbladesECHL14123+29
Erik KarlssonFrolundaSEL5000ev0
 KarlskronaAllsvenskan2011-40
 Frolunda J20U-2040102535+1448
 Frolunda J20U-20 playoffs6156+10
Brock McGinnGuelph StormOHL68282654+771
 Guelph StormOHL Playoffs3224+211
 Charlotte CheckersAHL4000-20
Riley NashCharlotte CheckersAHL51132437+1420
 Carolina HurricanesNHL31459-48
Andreas NodlCharlotte CheckersAHL6145-20
 Carolina HurricanesNHL8011-12
Oskar OsalaNeftekhimik NizhnekamskKHL44151126-152
 FinlandEHT2112+22
Luke PitherCharlotte CheckersAHL2361218+320
Victor RaskCharlotte CheckersAHL10145+70
 Calgary HitmenWHL37142741+1416
 Calgary HitmenWHL Playoffs125914+118
 Sweden U-20WJC6224-34
Jerome SamsonCharlotte CheckersAHL3771118+727
Justin ShuggCharlotte CheckersAHL3971421+510
 Florida EverbladesECHL19111122-220
Jared StaalCharlotte CheckersAHL54437-1225
Brett SutterCharlotte CheckersAHL70192948+462
 Carolina HurricanesNHL3000-14
Brodie SutterCharlotte CheckersAHL23325-113
 Florida EverbladesECHL368816-313
Chris TerryCharlotte CheckersAHL70253560+140
 Carolina HurricanesNHL3101ev0
Tim WallaceCharlotte CheckersAHL4791322+344
 Carolina HurricanesNHL25112-817
Jeremy WelshCharlotte CheckersAHL69141226-926
 Carolina HurricanesNHL5011+10
Brendan WoodsWisconsin BadgersWCHA415712 47
 Charlotte CheckersAHL2000ev2

Defensemen:

NameTeamLeagueGPGAPTS+/-PIM
Brett BellemoreCharlotte CheckersAHL6821113+1187
 Carolina HurricanesNHL8022-27
Danny BiegaHarvard CrimsonECAC322911 43
 Charlotte CheckersAHL1000ev0
Trevor CarrickMississagua SteelheadsOHL56102131-156
 Mississagua SteelheadsOHL Playoffs6022-511
Justin FaulkCharlotte CheckersAHL3151924+216
 Carolina HurricanesNHL3551015+515
Marc-Andre GragnaniCharlotte CheckersAHL4232528-1029
 Carolina HurricanesNHL1000ev0
Michal JordanCharlotte CheckersAHL5661016+622
 Carolina HurricanesNHL5000-22
Tommi KivistoCharlotte CheckersAHL17022-312
 Florida EverbladesECHL4841115+159
Justin KruegerCharlotte CheckersAHL6911415-231
Austin LeviPlymouth WhalersOHL5821517+3149
 Plymouth WhalersOHL Playoffs12022+512
Keegan LoweEdmonton Oil KingsWHL64151631+38148
 Edmonton Oil KingsWHL Playoffs11156+918
Ryan MurphyKitchener RangersOHL54103848+1434
 Kitchener RangersOHL Playoffs10347+18
 Charlotte CheckersAHL3022ev0
 Carolina HurricanesNHL4000-42
 Canada U-20WJC6123-22
Rasmus RissanenCharlotte CheckersAHL61099-384
Bobby SanguinettiCharlotte CheckersAHL3661521+116
 Carolina HurricanesNHL34246-74
Beau SchmitzCharlotte CheckersAHL214610+218
 Florida EverbladesECHL31022-1525
Jacob SlavinChicago SteelUSHL6252833-166
 USA U-19WJAC-194000ev0
Joe SovaSan Francisco BullsECHL23022-1118

Goalies:
NameTeamLeagueGPRecordSavesGAASV%SO
Daniel AltshullerOshawa GeneralsOHL5836-18-1-110682.62.9093
 Oshawa GeneralsOHL Playoffs94-4-12343.00.8970
Dan EllisCharlotte Checkers*AHL188-7-24942.46.9222
Matt MahalakPlymouth WhalersOHL4622-11-4-311592.86.9063
 Plymouth WhalersOHL Playoffs10-0-0150.001.000
Mike MurphySpartak MoscowKHL7  4.34.877 
 Charlotte CheckersAHL10-1-0305.04.8570
John MuseCharlotte CheckersAHL167-7-14013.22.8910
 Florida EverbladesECHL219-8-45743.61.8860
Collin OlsonOhio State BuckeyesCCHA92-3-11913.09.9010
Justin PetersCharlotte CheckersAHL3722-12-19272.29.9216

Locked Out Roster Regulars:
NameTeamLeagueGPGAPTS+/-PIM
Jamie McBainPelicansSM-Liiga7011-66
Andreas NodlHC InnsbruckAustria1741115-1226
Alexander SeminSokol KrasnoyarskVHL4224-18
 Torpedo Nizhny NovgorodKHL207916-910
Jiri TlustyHC KladnoCzech24121123+1712
 Czech RepublicEHT3112+16

* - Ellis was on contract to Charlotte to start the locking in the AHL.
updizzle. Levi continued to post ridiculous +/- stats this year, having a nice OHL playoffs so far in his typical limited offensive ways. Rask and Lowe both had huge seasons and are following that up with nice playoffs in the WHL so far. No clue as to why Mahalak fell off so hard but I wouldn't bet on him being signed anymore at this point given that he's not even the starter in Plymouth anymore as an overager.


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Hey Dave, it appears as though your info for Drayson Bowman, Brodie Sutter, and Bobby Sanguinetti is shifted left 1 column at the League column.

DETAILS!

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yeah I wish Bowman was a +17... with -7 points... wait, what?

I probably should use a bit more copy pasta when doing this, but I don't.

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yeah I wish Bowman was a +17... with -7 points... wait, what?

I probably should use a bit more copy pasta when doing this, but I don't.
And we thought Boychuk was bad.

And here....we.....go!

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Can you guys igve me any info on Rask? I have him in a keeper league and want to keep an eye on him as he's in my top prospect group

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He's been lighting it up for Calgary of the Dub this past year. About the only major flaw I've heard about his game is his skating, and even then it's not a huge flaw. He's good two-way, good physically, and solid in both scoring in playmaking roles.

The unfortunate part for him is that he'll probably end up having to switch over to wing in the NHL. We have the Staal bros down the middle and Riley Nash, and it's looking very likely that we'll draft Monahan at #5.

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From what I heard, he looked disinterested in the dub half the games. He had the skillset to take over and dominate, but you didn't know which Victor Rask was going to show up.

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Not as high on Rask as a lot here seem to be. His skating was just dreadful when I saw him play at the WJC. Not a fan at all of that aspect of his game. He's smart with the puck and is good on the boards for the level of competition he's against, but I don't know how much of that is going to translate higher than the AHL. He doesn't do anything exceptionally well and scoring at his rate in the CHL as an overage european isn't anything to write home about. There is a reason he was a top prospect for his draft year and then fell as his skating didn't improve with the rest of his game.

He's just not an elite prospect in my estimation.

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Not as high on Rask as a lot here seem to be. His skating was just dreadful when I saw him play at the WJC. Not a fan at all of that aspect of his game. He's smart with the puck and is good on the boards for the level of competition he's against, but I don't know how much of that is going to translate higher than the AHL. He doesn't do anything exceptionally well and scoring at his rate in the CHL as an overage european isn't anything to write home about. There is a reason he was a top prospect for his draft year and then fell as his skating didn't improve with the rest of his game.

He's just not an elite prospect in my estimation.
Ofcourse he isn't. If he was he'd already be playing for the Canes.

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Ofcourse he isn't. If he was he'd already be playing for the Canes.
While I do understand the tongue in cheek nature of that post, there was a reason that he was sent back to Calgary for another season instead of sticking in Charlotte and if you look at the point scoring that wasn't the reason. I feel like they correctly identified the fact that he wasn't ready for the AHL based upon his skating deficiencies and that he needed more time to develop that portion of his game. He's a project in the biggest sense and his flaw is the single biggest reason that highly talented offensive players never make it in the NHL if they lack it and it's skating. It's not a death knell, but it's something that simply cannot remain a problem if he hopes to have an NHL career of consequence.

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I agree with the skating, and how it likely will cap his ceiling a bit. I will say that I don't truly think he got demoted in that the reason for it was the skating. I'm sure they feel he needs to work on it, I just don't feel it was the number one reason. When rask showed up at camp it was mostly just so he could get experience. From day one they were saying he looked good and it wouldn't be automatic to send him to Calgary, because he was outplaying some guys. Remember what the ahl looked like at camp - stacked. Despite having too many options to start with, plenty of them with contracts for ahl or NHL and rask being the easy send down he worked his way into an intermittent spot. When I first watched I thought both he and welsh looked woeful in terms of skating and wasn't sure why they were saying the things they were. They both just weren't in sync with the other guys. A couple of weeks in, rask just started "getting it". Not only was he now in sync, he had figured out where to be and how to be effective. You didn't notice the skating hardly at all, because the postioning and play with the puck made it irrelevant. You will say back, "the NHL is a whole other animal with that speed" and you'd be right. I'm willing to withhold such statements as to me if he is a smart enough player to figure every level so far he may do it at the NHL level as well. I think he got sent down due to the numbers in the ahl during the lockout alongside with the likely thought of more time in junior could only help him out overall with his skating and general play. It was said initially anyway that he dominated in junior on his return, that the time as a pro had helped him. I think if we were short as we were later in the season in Charlotte that they would have greatly preferred he stay up.

In the ahl at his best that I saw, he is a potential high end complimentary player. He reminds me very much of a swedish Paul Stastny. Paul was never fast, wasn't even dominant in college. He never beat guys one on one or outsprinted anyone down the rink. He was always in the right place at the right time, and had the skill to make that right play consistently. He moved to the NHL and immediately was placed with the avs stars - and did exactly the same things. He just knew space and time, had soft hands with the passes, could finish the around the net chances. He plays to the level of his teamates, regardless of how high level they are. When they are diminished so is he to some extent. Rask seems like this, he isn't an end to end rusher but feels out the right space to buy time. He has very soft hands and passes with precision, finds people who are open and hits them with ease. He has an added dimension of being strong in taking the puck to the net from the half wall in when given space and has a pretty nice release on his snapshot.

To me that's why he can seemingly disappear from time to time. He likely needs linemates of skill, and is better in some offensive set ups than others. Elite? Hard to say before he has high level teamates and some time to adjust to the NHL speed. To me at his very best he may be a stastny/berglund type who have both had some highs and lows but are both legit top 6 players. He could easily not adjust to the pace and not make it at all. He was said to be a boom or bust pick, I think that's accurate. Looking forward to seeing him get a shot.


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I agree with the skating, and how it likely will cap his ceiling a bit. I will say that I don't truly think he got demoted in that the reason for it was the skating. I'm sure they feel he needs to work on it, I just don't feel it was the number one reason. When rask showed up at camp it was mostly just so he could get experience. From day one they were saying he looked good and it wouldn't be automatic to send him to Calgary, because he was outplaying some guys. Remember what the ahl looked like at camp - stacked. Despite having too many options to start with, plenty of them with contracts for ahl or NHL and rask being the easy send down he worked his way into an intermittent spot. When I first watched I thought both he and welsh looked woeful in terms of skating and wasn't sure why they were saying the things they were. They both just weren't in sync with the other guys. A couple of weeks in, rask just started "getting it". Not only was he now in sync, he had figured out where to be and how to be effective. You didn't notice the skating hardly at all, because the postioning and play with the puck made it irrelevant. You will say back, "the NHL is a whole other animal with that speed" and you'd be right. I'm willing to withhold such statements as to me if he is a smart enough player to figure every level so far he may do it at the NHL level as well. I think he got sent down due to the numbers in the ahl during the lockout alongside with the likely thought of more time in junior could only help him out overall with his skating and general play. It was said initially anyway that he dominated in junior on his return, that the time as a pro had helped him. I think if we were short as we were later in the season in Charlotte that they would have greatly preferred he stay up.

In the ahl at his best that I saw, he is a potential high end complimentary player. He reminds me very much of a swedish Paul Stastny. Paul was never fast, wasn't even dominant in college. He never beat guys one on one or outsprinted anyone down the rink. He was always in the right place at the right time, and had the skill to make that right play consistently. He moved to the NHL and immediately was placed with the avs stars - and did exactly the same things. He just knew space and time, had soft hands with the passes, could finish the around the net chances. He plays to the level of his teamates, regardless of how high level they are. When they are diminished so is he to some extent. Rask seems like this, he isn't an end to end rusher but feels out the right space to buy time. He has very soft hands and passes with precision, finds people who are open and hits them with ease. He has an added dimension of being strong in taking the puck to the net from the half wall in when given space and has a pretty nice release on his snapshot.

To me that's why he can seemingly disappear from time to time. He likely needs linemates of skill, and is better in some offensive set ups than others. Elite? Hard to say before he has high level teamates and some time to adjust to the NHL speed. To me at his very best he may be a stastny/berglund type who have both had some highs and lows but are both legit top 6 players. He could easily not adjust to the pace and not make it at all. He was said to be a boom or bust pick, I think that's accurate. Looking forward to seeing him get a shot.

So you think he would compliment Skinner well?

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It's really up to skinner on wii compliments him well. He seems to be a better playmaker as a center than as a wing. As a wing he's a solo artist primarily, and its hard to say who would click with him. I think rask is more than talented enough to get skinner the puck. Chemistry? I don't speculate on that often. You never know who will work well together.

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I see Rask as being a good third-liner who can move up to the second. Seems to me he ends up being something like Martin Gelinas* if he ends up on the wing, and that's fine if that's all he ever is. We could use a couple of players like that.

* - Talking about latter-career Gelinas, who was slowish but had a knack for finding the right spot on the ice.

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Any info if D Jordan will re-sign?

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