Speculation: Sabres Talk - Proposals, Speculation, Roster-shaping

[Der Jaeger]

Originally Posted by sabresandcanucks

Me three.

I would too.

[stokes84]

Originally Posted by Jame

CoHo is doing a fine job centering the primary scoring line...

Sure, if you consider having highest percentage of even strength goals being scored against while he's on the ice of any player in the NHL fine, I agree.

[Jame]

Originally Posted by stokes84

Sure, if you consider having highest percentage of even strength goals being scored against while he's on the ice of any player in the NHL fine, I agree.

14th worst you mean?

Do you expect the on ice save % to hold over a season? I don't.
Do you think that Vanek hanging back (we've benefited from those counter attacks) has anything to do with it?

[Stop Winnin]

Originally Posted by Old Navy Goat

I guess the Derek Roy's, Jason Pominville types in the second + rounds never counted

Well I meant more like the Patrice Bergeron player that is good offensively and can play a shutdown role. As opposed to our Gaustads/Roys.

[stokes84]

Originally Posted by Jame

14th worst you mean?

Do you expect the on ice save % to hold over a season? I don't.
Do you think that Vanek hanging back (we've benefited from those counter attacks) has anything to do with it?

I don't know. Vanek has a positive +/- and a positive corsi. Hodgson is negative in both. Hodgson is truly bad in his own end statistically. Vigneault wouldn't put him on the ice in defensive spots, and it looks like he had a clue. If ROR came here for Ennis, I would put him with Vanek and Poms because they see top competition. I'd hope that Hodgson could create enough on his own to replace Ennis, but I'm not convinced.

This has him listed as the worst, not 14th.

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/rati...0&sortdir=DESC

[Jame]

Originally Posted by stokes84

I don't know. Vanek has a positive +/- and a positive corsi. Hodgson is negative in both. Hodgson is truly bad in his own end statistically. Vigneault wouldn't put him on the ice in defensive spots, and it looks like he had a clue. If ROR came here for Ennis, I would put him with Vanek and Poms because they see top competition. I'd hope that Hodgson could create enough on his own to replace Ennis, but I'm not convinced.

That would be silly...

[gallagt01]

Ennis and McNabb for O'Reilly and a pick/prospect.

Gerbe and Leopold for Boyle and ______.

You lose some already-lacking secondary scoring but you shore up the center situation and add some defensive chops to the forward group.