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Viqsi · 03-02-2013, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny FTW

I never said anything about a 1st for Bishop. Re-read my comments and try again.

You never said it directly, but the comment that prompted that reply was referring to that proposal in which Columbus sends a 1st for Bishop.

jbeck5 · 03-02-2013, 09:51 PM

Well bishop's value was a 2nd last year...and i think he's upped his value.

If a team needs a young up and coming goalie with starter potential(who is currently playing like a starter), i don't see why they wouldn't give a 25-30th overall pick for him.

Ottawa would probably take a 2nd and a 3rd/4th/prospect.

I could even see a 2nd and a reclam player who is fairly young, like ottawa did with svatos a couple years ago...or latendresse this past year.

The point is it would take more then a 2nd as he's clearly upped his value. It all depends on how many teams need a young goalie with potential. I can see NJ needing him with brodeur likely retiring very soon.

SnarkAttack · 03-02-2013, 10:01 PM

I like Bishop, but teams inquiring have to see that every goalie that has played for the Sens this year has looked really good. Not knocking Bishop, but that has to be a consideration.

Landru · 03-02-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SnarkAttack

I like Bishop, but teams inquiring have to see that every goalie that has played for the Sens this year has looked really good. Not knocking Bishop, but that has to be a consideration.

...not really sure I get your point. If you watch the games, it's pretty clear that the goalies are really bailing the team out right now. We just happen to have a trio of great goaltenders.

Qward · 03-02-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SnarkAttack

I like Bishop, but teams inquiring have to see that every goalie that has played for the Sens this year has looked really good. Not knocking Bishop, but that has to be a consideration.

I see where you are coming from, but if you watch the Sens play, you will see that the goalies are the only reason they are where they are. We have allowed the second most shots against so far this year.

Half are D belong and about half our forwards belong in the AHL right now.

This is a rare opportunity for the Sens to cash in on an asset they have without hurting the team.

Personally I would prefer Brassard to another 1st.

Benny FTW · 03-02-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Viqsi

You never said it directly, but the comment that prompted that reply was referring to that proposal in which Columbus sends a 1st for Bishop.

i had no comment on that part.

Erik Silfverberg · 03-02-2013, 10:52 PM

How about Bishop for Brassard? A duo of Bobs-Bishop would be pretty sick.

Viqsi · 03-03-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 18Hossa

How about Bishop for Brassard? A duo of Bobs-Bishop would be pretty sick.

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If ever I seem frustratingly repetitive to folks, it's only because we keep seeing the same denied and dismissed proposals resubmitted over and over and over and over and over.

AGAIN: Proven. Established. Full-time. NHL Starter. All of the above or no deal.

Mayor Bee · 03-03-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 18Hossa

How about Bishop for Brassard? A duo of Bobs-Bishop would be pretty sick.

And do what with Mason? Just allow a multi-year starter who's looked much improved this year to just walk away and get nothing?

crayzy8 · 03-03-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayor Bee

And do what with Mason? Just allow a multi-year starter who's looked much improved this year to just walk away and get nothing?

I think from an Ottawa perspective a lower first round is fair compensation, not sure if we could fetch a touch more or not to a desperate team.

Qward · 03-03-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayor Bee

And do what with Mason? Just allow a multi-year starter who's looked much improved this year to just walk away and get nothing?

Better goalies have walked.

Mayor Bee · 03-03-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Qward

Better goalies have walked.

It's not a question of whether it's happened before, it's a question of whether it should happen now.

For the sake of comparison in terms of experience, Bishop is 18 months older than Mason. Bishop has 30 career NHL games; Mason has started more than that in every year of his career so far. Mason this year has looked better than at any point since his rookie year, and has only looked bad once or twice this year. He's in great shape, and everyone around the organization has credited him for doing everything needed to restore his level of play.

Everyone around the league is aware that Mason has not just starting potential, but actual All-Star potential. The issues have never been with his talent (or lack thereof), but with something else.

So I ask again. What would Columbus do with Mason if they were to trade for Bishop? I know full well that Ottawa needs to do something to clear the way for Lehner. Why should Columbus be a party to that, creating their own three-way logjam of NHL goalies on the roster? And why should they lay out actual assets for that honor?

Flames Fanatic · 03-03-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Viqsi

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If ever I seem frustratingly repetitive to folks, it's only because we keep seeing the same denied and dismissed proposals resubmitted over and over and over and over and over.

AGAIN: Proven. Established. Full-time. NHL Starter. All of the above or no deal.

So about how many of your posts do you figure are reiterating a point that posters have ignored?