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More trade value: Price vs Doughty

View Poll Results: More trade value ?
Doughty 75 54.35%
Price 63 45.65%
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02-05-2013, 05:05 AM
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guess there are a lot of montreal fans....
Nope, just some posters that don't like Drew.

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02-05-2013, 06:22 AM
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I'd say Doughty because there is more of a need/demand for a defender of his quality. Most teams already have their established #1 starter. Having said that, Price would fetch a fair price.

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I think Dougthy but not certainly by landslide.

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02-05-2013, 12:13 PM
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They're overrated, I remember a thread where a few Habs fans said Price was worth Stamkos.
That doesn't make his value overrated, that's just idiots exposing themselves.

If a GM "had to have" Price for whatever reason, he'd be giving up a lot.

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02-05-2013, 12:24 PM
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yeah but young vezina caliber Luongo still just got and old Bertuzzi down the cliff post Moore incident.

Patrick Roy did not get much, Bryzgalov got nothing.

goaltender do not seem to be tradable that much.

dougthy is much more valuable on the trade market. Get Dougthy for Price and simply sign Vokoun during the summer. (you cannot do that with a defencemen)
Luongo I'd heard would have left anyways because he wanted to go to a contender and was upcoming UFA? Could someone confirm that?

Roy is a traitor who forced the Habs to trade him. Irrelevant to this conversation.

Bryzgalov was an upcoming UFA who would have left.


You chose situations that aren't very relevant.

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02-05-2013, 12:28 PM
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This is true but as long as there is a handful of teams in need of a starting goalie his value would be high. Not having a number 1 goalie is a way bigger hole than not having a number 1 D. All you would need is 3-4 teams to have a good bidding war for Price.

Besides, while every team might want Doughty there would be a lot that couldn't fit in his salary without making significant moves to clear space.
Exactly, look at New Jersey for example. They built their system and team around Brodeur, and that's worked pretty well. Right now they don't really even have a top defenseman, just a lot of pretty good ones, and that works great.

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02-05-2013, 12:37 PM
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They're overrated, I remember a thread where a few Habs fans said Price was worth Stamkos.
In terms of value to his team... quite possibly. There are only two teams in the league who are legitimately set for the next 10-15 years in goal; that is Montreal and LA. Vancouver and some other teams are debatable, however no other teams have bonafide, very young, starting netminders who are already two of the best in the league.

In terms of trade value, Stamkos > Price simply because Stamkos is closer to "generational" status than Price and is a more coveted player.

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02-05-2013, 07:23 PM
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In terms of value to his team... quite possibly. There are only two teams in the league who are legitimately set for the next 10-15 years in goal; that is Montreal and LA. Vancouver and some other teams are debatable, however no other teams have bonafide, very young, starting netminders who are already two of the best in the league.

In terms of trade value, Stamkos > Price simply because Stamkos is closer to "generational" status than Price and is a more coveted player.
You have to demonstrate in term of win's that having price versus an average easy to get average nhler goaltender is better than having stamkos playing 20-22 minutes instead of a average easy to get top6 nhl center.

Do you take a 0.05-0.10 save percentage boost on 70 games or a 60 goal - 100 points centers instead of a 20 goals - 50 points one ?

To me the second seem to give a better goal differential for my team.

are you saying that because Stamkos kind of player tend to have short prime ? Or you believe right now that Price with Deharnais on the first line is better than having Halak with Stamkos on the first line.

Could you elaborate on your method use to calculate that ?

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02-05-2013, 11:11 PM
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We might offer Bryzgalov and a 1st for Price. Bryz is playing great hockey right now and we have no reason to trade him.

Also, Price is horrendously overrated around here and that cap-hit is ugly for only having him locked up for 6 years. The fact that this Price v. Doughty thread is even close just shows how many Habs fans frequent this board because without them, it's heavily in Doughty's favor and rightfully so.

I'd give up a heap for Doughty though...


Bryzgalov: 2019-20, cap hit: $5,666,667

Talk about ugly cap hits.

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02-06-2013, 07:20 AM
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Doughty wins it with his overpaid contract hands down.
Especially based on PO performance
DD - 32 games 9g 12a 21 points +6
Price - 28 games 8w 15L 3SO 2.84GAA 0.907 saving %

Montreal best play-off run in last 15? (not sure) years Halak was a back-up goalie and ended-up the better of them by FAR. Price couldn't handle what Jaro did. Same year the slovak was traded for Lars Eller, pretty much says a lot about Price's value
How is he winning the pull? IDK
DD = 32 games 9g 18a 27 points

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