Hey guys Pen's fan I come in peace I love what your team is doing, What would it take for the Pens to land Ott? Also I read I think CBS Sports rumor Miller to the Blues. What kind of package could the Sabres get in return? Imagine part of the deal was Ty Rattie wow!! I wish somehow you could trade for Nichushkin. I think he is going to be a stud. I really hoped you guys nabbed him. I thought he and Grigorenko would have been a future one two punch. Thanks.
The Sabres are going to be scary in a few years. I'm especially afraid of what their blueline is going to look like pretty soon. Sick. If they get McDavid in 15, they are going to be flat out awesome. I really hope that doesn't happen. Sorry Sabres fans, but I can't have that in my division.
Hey guys Pen's fan I come in peace I love what your team is doing,
Why do people "love this"?
They're trading off veteran players and going into rebuild mode, which was brought on as a last resort after years of mismanagement and ineptitude, with our GM who can't tell a good team from a bad one.
Honestly, I have much more respect for teams like Detroit or NJ, who find ways to consistently win without going into suckmode for 5 years to stockpile on franchise players through lottery (Pens, Hawks, Oilers, Caps...).
The positive side is that we may get an exciting team (when they get rid of schoolteacher Ron), as opposed to possibly the most boring team in the league in the last 7 years (since Briere/Drury left).
Is the risk not the same whether they trade him or don't ?
Trading him increases the risk because the cap negative years don't get credited to the Sabres in the case of a trade.
Trade of not if he retires in the 2017 offseason the Sabres would be charged 2.5M/year for 4 years
If they trade him the prior to the start of the 2017-2018 season here are the recapture penalties based on his retirement
2018 offseason: 3.333M/year for 3 years
2019 offseason: 5/year for 2 years
2020 offseason: 10/year for 1 year
If they *do not* trade him they recoup some of the benefit during the years salary is lower than cap hit. That means they would have the following penalties
2018 offseason: 3M/year for 3 years
2019 offseason: 3M/year for 2 years
2020 offseason: 3M/year for 1 year
Now, the overall risk is slightly mitigated by the fact that Ehrhoff has his contract expiring at a very young age comparatively. He'll 'only' be 38 during the 2020-2021 season so playing at that time isn't absurd.
I wouldn't be surprised if they flip him for another first rounder at the trade deadline. Especially if he keeps racking up goals like he did last night.
It would be interesting if he ramps up his game and ends up producing at a 35g 70pt pace. I would be a bit torn to let him go, although I assume with that kind of year he could command5-6 mill in the open market.
I guess he just wouldn't really fit into our plans and I would opt to trade him. but at that goal pace, I would imagine we could bring in a 1st rounder and then some.
Also wanted to mention I do not think we should trade Erhoff at all. He is signed to a cap friendly contract for the next, 8 years? And he should be effective for at least the next 5-6 years. I would prefer to keep a true smooth, smart veteran like that to calm the Zadorov's and Risto's of the D corp for the foreseeable future.
It's smart to rebuild like this, but if you end up with ALL young players and no vet presence I don't think so you make it to the promise land.
I would prefer to keep Ott and Erhoff. Move Moulson and probably Miller. If Miller was a bit younger I'd say keep him as he could still be in his prime (mid 30s for goalies) when the Sabres potential to really take off is there. I think his window is just short of that though.