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04-23-2012, 01:50 PM
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Maybe something around Martin for Malone if nothing else can surface?

Then Orpik for Stewart

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Letang-Despres
Niskanen-Michalek
Strait/UFA-Engo

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Harding

I could live with this...
Harding wants to start, I think the Pens should sign Al Montoya.

...And where's Duper in your lineup?

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04-23-2012, 02:18 PM
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Harding wants to start, I think the Pens should sign Al Montoya.

...And where's Duper in your lineup?
Opps. I want to get rid of TK and plug in Duper.

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Malone-Malkin-Neal
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Tangradi-Vitale-Adams

Would be nice to have Kennedy around because I don't see Malone playing a full season so it would be nice to have someone to plug in there...

Malone out...

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04-23-2012, 02:22 PM
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Why don't we make sure Orpik wasn't hurt all year before trading him. It's a notable possibliity. Or we could just trade him this summer because

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Why don't we make sure Orpik wasn't hurt all year before trading him. It's a notable possibliity. Or we could just trade him this summer because
That's a very good possibility...and given that I'm sure it's something that would be explored...however for a bad as he was for us in certain parts of the year...why would the coaching staff keep penciling him when he had plenty of talent in WB/S to cover his absence?

Despres could have easily played for a month while he recovered from an injury.

I figured it was a little lingering pain from the surgeries...but that doesn't last 6 months.

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So, now that Pittsburgh is eliminated and Orpik wasn't really a factor, what would Pittsburgh want for him from Tampa Bay?
Purcell isn't likely to be traded, is he? I'd like him on the Pens but I doubt you guys would want that.

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That's a very good possibility...and given that I'm sure it's something that would be explored...however for a bad as he was for us in certain parts of the year...why would the coaching staff keep penciling him when he had plenty of talent in WB/S to cover his absence?

Despres could have easily played for a month while he recovered from an injury.

I figured it was a little lingering pain from the surgeries...but that doesn't last 6 months.
I just know that webbing on his ribs had trouble setting, and I don't know if that gets any better getting knocked around constantly. Just saying it's a possibility. Why they wouldn't let him rest I have no idea. Maybe it would've taken too long to heal, maybe it's the usual where they didn't want to expose a young guy for too long, I dunno. If nothing comes out in the next couple weeks then he probably was fine, I'd just like to know for sure before we're shopping around the only guy that can push anyone around.

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Brooks wont be traded...get real

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Maybe something around Martin for Malone if nothing else can surface?

Then Orpik for Stewart

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Malone-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Tangradi-Vitale-Adams

Letang-Despres
Niskanen-Michalek
Strait/UFA-Engo

Fleury
Harding

I could live with this...
There's a couple issues with this.
Harding wants a chance to start... there's no way he'd sign behind an established starter like MAF. Look for him to go to NJ, Toronto, Tampa, Edmonton, etc.

As talented as Despres is, he isn't ready to be a top pairing guy. Could he be slotted in on the 3rd pairing with getting more icetime for injuries, etc, putting him there isn't going to be in his interest long term.

Engelland isn't going anywhere, nor would he get bumped as the 6th guy. He's decent in his own end, physical, can handle 15ish minutes and on an amazing contract. For those reasons others might go, but he'll be around for a while yet.

Additionally, replacing Orpik with Despres and giving Strait top 6 icetime means our D would likely be some of the easiest to play against. Strait, Nisky, Letang and Despres are all alright, and Engo is physical, however Michalek is far from it. And other than Engo, the rest don't do much more than 1.2 hits a game... That's NOT enough. We saw this in the Philly series... doing this gives us more scoring - which was NOT our problem, while simply changing around our D. I'm not sure it's better at all... at least not until Despres and Strait mature more.

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What would Pittsburgh want from Dallas?

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What would Pittsburgh want from Dallas?
Honestly not sure. There's some interesting players (Ryder, Fistric, Ott, etc), but I'm not sure there's anything there that's not mostly futures or lateral at best.

Ryder would be an asset upfront. But Ott is similar to others we have. Fistric in his prime (which is a few years off) likely won't be too much better than Orpik now (although it's possible he becomes amazing). In the short term (win now mode) it likely makes them slightly worse.

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What would Pittsburgh want from Dallas?
I've always been a fan of Fistric. Morrow and Ott may be of interest as well.

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