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03-29-2017, 11:47 AM
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MacT ws a step up from Tambo (who wouldnt be) but he also failed with Schultz (who you named) and Dubnyk. Handled both players terribly.
Nikitin was a problem because this team needed a top 4 dman and MacT acquired Nikitin and sold him as a 2nd pairing dman and did nothing else to solve the lack of top 4 defensive depth. that forced the coaches to play Schultz above his pay grade and it essentially made a mess of the defence and set the team back even further with the rebuild.
That is entirely on him.
I agree that MacT was bad at handling players. I was just suggesting that he was good with trades and free agency. As for Nikitin, he also signed Fayne. So that was supposed to be 2 top-4 Dmen. And with Petry and Smid, there was no reason for Schultz to be in the top-4. That's on Eakins.

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Posted from another thread.

vs. Calgary between 2006 to 2016 seasons:

Season(s)WLSOLOTLGFGA
2006-2016193307141188
2015-201623001418
2014-20150401821
2013-20142102914
2012-201322001611
2011-201224001518
2010-201113021723
2009-201005011125
2008-200932011919
2007-200844001818
2006-200735001421

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Now against Vancouver:

Season(s)WLSOLOTLGFGA
2006-2016223008145180
2015-20163002149
2014-201503021521
2013-201423001216
2012-201331011611
2011-201214011322
2010-201124001316
2009-201023011119
2008-200933001819
2007-200844001623
2006-200725011724

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I agree that MacT was bad at handling players. I was just suggesting that he was good with trades and free agency. As for Nikitin, he also signed Fayne. So that was supposed to be 2 top-4 Dmen. And with Petry and Smid, there was no reason for Schultz to be in the top-4. That's on Eakins.
We had CBJ fans on here saying that Nikitin wasn't an NHLer when we signed him. I agree Eakins was HORRIBLE for this franchise (obviously) but MacT dramatically overrated (and overpaid) three times for defensemen he (and no one else in the NHL) thought could play top four roles (I'm including Ference in that). Eakins certainly didn't help but that's on MacT.

I also don't agree that Scrivens was any kind of a good move. That was MacT going into a regular season with a career backup based on a semi hot streak playing meaningless games at the end of a lost season the year before. For a young, fragile team that was an utterly boneheaded move.

I don't give MacT, 'at least he tried' points for moves where they couldn't possibly work out unless all the stars aligned.

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03-29-2017, 01:15 PM
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We had CBJ fans on here saying that Nikitin wasn't an NHLer when we signed him. I agree Eakins was HORRIBLE for this franchise (obviously) but MacT dramatically overrated (and overpaid) three times for defensemen he (and no one else in the NHL) thought could play top four roles (I'm including Ference in that). Eakins certainly didn't help but that's on MacT.

I also don't agree that Scrivens was any kind of a good move. That was MacT going into a regular season with a career backup based on a semi hot streak playing meaningless games at the end of a lost season the year before. For a young, fragile team that was an utterly boneheaded move.

I don't give MacT, 'at least he tried' points for moves where they couldn't possibly work out unless all the stars aligned.
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03-29-2017, 01:16 PM
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Now against Vancouver:

Season(s)WLSOLOTLGFGA
2006-2016223008145180
2015-20163002149
2014-201503021521
2013-201423001216
2012-201331011611
2011-201214011322
2010-201124001316
2009-201023011119
2008-200933001819
2007-200844001623
2006-200725011724
As exciting as a legit shot at building a contender around McDavid is, I'm almost as excited to finally finally have a player who can torch division rivals like we've been torched by Naslund, Bertuzzi, the Sedins, Iginla, etc, etc for years and years and years.

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03-29-2017, 01:27 PM
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It may have turned out that Mactavish didn't make those types of moves, but he would have if he didn't have the rug unceremoniously pulled out from under him barely a year an a half into his tenure. There were rampant rumors that he was moving towards doing some drastic things to save his coach when he had Eakins fired out from under him, which came a week after he declared his genius buddy would be around for 10 years. At the time, there was widespread media speculation that Nicholson had stepped in to not only go over the suddenly lame duck GM's head in firing the coach, but also to put the brakes on any and all big moves with the core players of the team.

Mactavish simply didn't have enough time or the organizational support to irrevocably damage the team's future. When you consider his utterly atrocious offseason and UFA market work that were a preview of the type batsh** crazy we'd have to get used to if he got to stick around in the GM role, that lack of time pretty much the only reason why you can give him the faint praise of "at least he only damaged the future of the team for 5 or so years instead of 15".
It wasn't media speculation. Bob Nicholson went on National tv and radio with Bob Mccown on Primetime Sports to announce he was now working in hockey operations and that no moves would be happening with core players. This all coming on a Monday following a weekend of rumours that Mactavish had put everybody on his roster on the market. While he didn't say it in so many words, it was pretty clear in that interview that Mactavish had been stripped of a lot of his power. The Eakins firing came shortly after that.

I agree completely that the only reason Mactavish isn't considered a bigger disaster than he is because the team put an end to it before he could make it worse.

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This is still painful to watch:


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03-29-2017, 02:23 PM
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Its not at all the same, and I assume that's what the sarcasm smilie was for... and not that you think there actually is any similarity!

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Its not at all the same, and I assume that's what the sarcasm smilie was for... and not that you think there actually is any similarity!
Yeah, that was sarsasm.

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As exciting as a legit shot at building a contender around McDavid is, I'm almost as excited to finally finally have a player who can torch division rivals like we've been torched by Naslund, Bertuzzi, the Sedins, Iginla, etc, etc for years and years and years.
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Holy ****, I still can't believe we all went through this as a fanbase and still supported this team.

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03-31-2017, 12:07 AM
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I was looking for any playoff theme music from 2006 and stumbled across the Coveredinoil blog entries from the playoffs back then. Maybe some of you are in the photos from Whyte. Start from the bottom of the page, going up, then keep paging to newer posts.

http://coveredinoil.blogspot.ca/sear...&by-date=false

Edit: Too bad we're not facing Detroit again or someone could've chucked some steaks on the Joe Louis ice.

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