I imagine Kane's Q value is going to rise with the public (at least those who are not old and set in their ways) after all this. Everything he was being criticized for he is turning around to something you root for now.
For every person who finds his money phone to be immature there are prolly 2-3 people who got a good laugh. Look at these boards, I see a lot of support for Kane because people are annoyed that he's being criticized for haircuts, suits, etc.
I remember last season some posters would mention Kane's supposed immaturity and say that he/we/everyone was fortunate enough to have TNSE and Chipman around to mold his image and interviews. Funny thing is that Kane has cultivated a large following on social media and sporting world outside of TNSE. Same with this THN story and the response and his handling of it, all outside the realm of TNSE. I don't think he is as nearly aloof or immature as some propose.
Kane is getting way to much negative attention. Based on the audio you can tell that he thought the money phone picture was cool. When I sit back and look at my twitter account, I know I would have posted that exact picture of me.
The media attention many celebrities get from posting a similar picture could potentially be extremely positive or negative. He just caught us during the lockout, which he took as a vacation. Add on the rumors still fresh in peoples minds and well we know how that goes.
All I need from him is to get back on the horse and perform for my fantasy team and the Jets. Kane 2 goals tomorrow.
What's the difference between posing with a handful of money and posing with a truck you bought with a handful of money? Both pictures were during the lockout, by the way.
Well, for starters, Bogo was still getting paid during the lockout, because he was injured, wasn't he?
In general, though, I think the average joe who doesn't have a ton of money is going to appreciate the truck over the brick of cash because it's something useful. Sure, Bogosian bought an expensive truck, but a truck is something that most of us in Winnipeg, at one point or another, have probably driven or at least ridden in. We can relate. His truck is fancy, and that's because he can afford it, but the general premise is the same -- it's a vehicle to get from point A to B and to carry stuff in. It's a practical item, and don't forget... he's a spokesman for an auto dealer.
Kane, on the other hand, is flashing an actual *stack of money*. That seems far more like flaunting his wealth, doesn't it?
Look at it this way: I don't have a lot of money, but last year, my wife and I bought a new(er) vehicle. We were very excited about it, so we posted a picture on Facebook to show our friends. Now, if we'd taken the cost of that vehicle (a fraction of Bogosian's, no doubt) *in cash* and had posed for a photo with all the bills, which would be more obnoxious?
a) "Hey look, we *finally* got a newer car!"
b) "Hey, look at all the money we have?"
I have no doubt that some people do hate on Kane for racist reasons, as ****** as that is, but I like to think most Winnipeggers are more likely to take offense at someone showing off his wealth than someone showing off a practical purchase like a new vehicle or a new house or something -- regardless of race.
I really hope Arctic Ice runs with another story on Winnipeg's race problem. My favorite part was where you guys compared Pavelec's DUI to Kane's antics and claimed that if a black player got a DUI he'd be run out of town. Errr...I mean...any black player other than Byfuglien. Wait, that doesn't fit the narrative at all.
I think Trevor said his bit on that issue the fact that Kane feels it too should tell you what the truth is...
Also, some believe hillbilly Buff got a harder time than Pav.
Kane, on the other hand, is flashing an actual *stack of money*. That seems far more like flaunting his wealth, doesn't it?
Obviously Kane is perfect spokesperson for the banking industry to reach the millenials. But just not a credit union, he needs something flashier to promote, gotta be one of the big banks. Like TD. Instead of the two old guys arguing about when a bank opened and closed in the 1950s they could have Kane asking you if you want to be holding a money phone when you retire? Then come in to a branch today for a free consultation...
I read the article and hes sounded like an immature punk. The vegas money thing was not because he was black. It was because he was acting like a munny grubbing spoiled ingrate right when the economy is sucking, people are hurting, and the NHL owners are complaining the players make too much money.
Joke? Sure. Good timing and good judgement? No.
Racist? Only if Kane WANTS to believe it.
We all face prejudice of some kind. Too fat, too tall, too short, too weak, too stupid, too poor, socially inept, too social...............
We deal with it and move on. Hes biracial. He lives in a social circle where they are 95% white. He looks different. He cant go around afraid that any criticism is based on the fact hes half black. He will start seeing racism everywhere.
Like his management said, he needs to let it bounce off him and move on.
I read the article and hes sounded like an immature punk. The vegas money thing was not because he was black. It was because he was acting like a munny grubbing spoiled ingrate right when the economy is sucking, people are hurting, and the NHL owners are complaining the players make too much money.
Joke? Sure. Good timing and good judgement? No.
Racist? Only if Kane WANTS to believe it.
We all face prejudice of some kind. Too fat, too tall, too short, too weak, too stupid, too poor, socially inept, too social...............
We deal with it and move on. Hes biracial. He lives in a social circle where they are 95% white. He looks different. He cant go around afraid that any criticism is based on the fact hes half black. He will start seeing racism everywhere.
Like his management said, he needs to let it bounce off him and move on.
You clearly have not paid attention to the comments that came out. When saying "the article" they dont mean the article of a few leaked sentances, they mean the article of the entire interview.
listen to his media scrum today, he was not saying "everyone hate sme because i'm black" like he's being painted as saying. He handled himself in the best possible manner and explaiend that was directed in regards to the aimless vitrol on twitter.
Seriously, listen to the media scrum, he's done exactly what you just said, as in "let it bounce off him"
I think Trevor said his bit on that issue the fact that Kane feels it too should tell you what the truth is...
Also, some believe hillbilly Buff got a harder time than Pav.
What is the truth, exactly? I don't recall Trevor recanting his story despite several of us pointing out gaping holes in his theory (i.e., Buff's DUI = still fan favorite). Thats a pretty serious charge to lay against a city and its fanbase, no? Trevor didn't cite any examples and thats the real problem with this whole Kane fiasco: it's all presumed racism, conjecture and under the radar.
Some idiot fan throws a banana peel at Wayne Simmonds in London, Ontario. Joel Ward scored a goal against Boston last year and twitter was filled with disgusting racist slurs by a number of Boston fans. These are real examples of racism, but nobody writing articles about these city's "race problems".
I read the article and hes sounded like an immature punk. The vegas money thing was not because he was black. It was because he was acting like a munny grubbing spoiled ingrate right when the economy is sucking, people are hurting, and the NHL owners are complaining the players make too much money.
Joke? Sure. Good timing and good judgement? No.
Racist? Only if Kane WANTS to believe it.
We all face prejudice of some kind. Too fat, too tall, too short, too weak, too stupid, too poor, socially inept, too social...............
We deal with it and move on. Hes biracial. He lives in a social circle where they are 95% white. He looks different. He cant go around afraid that any criticism is based on the fact hes half black. He will start seeing racism everywhere.
Like his management said, he needs to let it bounce off him and move on.
I don't agree with this. If Evander's tweet was inappropriate timing due to the economy sucking, then it would have been inappropriate for the better part of the last 5-10 years? Kane should be checking the state of the US Mortgage crisis before tweeting a pic of himself.... really? The only reason I thought it was a tad insensitive was that there were regular people, many of whom don't make much money that had lost their jobs due to the lockout, which in the end was a fight between millionaires (Kane included) vs. billionaires.
I think we expect too much from 20 something athletes. I didn't find the money phone tweet to be particularly funny, but I certainly didn't find it offensive either. If Twitter was around when I was 21 I would have put Evander to shame with my antics. Granted, I'm not a professional athlete, but I think we take it too far sometimes.
I really wish people would cut him some slack. I don't care if he wears a Tiffany diamond encrusted suit and carves a picture of Chipman in the back of his head.
Show up, play with passion, score goals and hit people.
Check, check, check, check
I especially like how taken a back he was at a reporting suggesting he meant his hockey criticism stemmed from something race related. Listening to this interview again just make me love this kid all the more.... i feel an avatar change coming on.
I don't think Kane is a guy I would enjoy spending time with off ice. I have a strong suspicion that I'm not his kind of guy either. So even if I were inclined to hang with the guy, it's not going to happen.
So what?
I am completely bored with the "Kane's attitude" topic. I only care what he does on the ice. Let Gary Lawless get his pantaloons in a twist over Kane's character or lack thereof. I just want to see him become the dominant power forward he can be.
I'm glad to see that Kane isn't letting it get under his skin.
If this team was winning we would have better things to talk about.
Just watched his scrum after practice today. Two thoughts:
1. I actually like/respect Kane a lot more after his comments today.
2. The media in this town are really kind of simple and awkward.
The sports media in town are bottom-of-the-barrel types. No big league here until last year, so you're not going to attract the creme of the crop of sports journalism...you're going to end up with Lawless and his ilk.
To be fair, Toronto is the Canadian mecca of sports and although it has some very good sports journalists, it also has its share of garbage.
What is the truth, exactly? I don't recall Trevor recanting his story despite several of us pointing out gaping holes in his theory (i.e., Buff's DUI = still fan favorite). Thats a pretty serious charge to lay against a city and its fanbase, no? Trevor didn't cite any examples and thats the real problem with this whole Kane fiasco: it's all presumed racism, conjecture and under the radar.
Some idiot fan throws a banana peel at Wayne Simmonds in London, Ontario. Joel Ward scored a goal against Boston last year and twitter was filled with disgusting racist slurs by a number of Boston fans. These are real examples of racism, but nobody writing articles about these city's "race problems".
I didn't see any gaping holes in his article. An opinion is an opinion. He thinks race is a factor. I think race is a factor. Many others think race is a factor including Kane. Denying that possibility is every bit asinine.
Racism in other cities has no bearing on the Kane situation or where the issues originate.
So, as expected, this was much ado about nothing. People took one response out of context and ran with it, twisting it into something they could use as ammunition against Kane.
It also became an examination of Winnipeg's attitude towards race, and other racial subjects, all of which are not for discussion on this board.
At any rate, the usefulness of this thread as it pertains to discussion of hockey and the Winnipeg Jets was thin at best and has been exhausted.
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