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01-14-2014, 11:41 AM
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Let's just make certain Sherman isn't in the room when negotiations begin.

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01-14-2014, 11:47 AM
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Let's just make certain Sherman isn't in the room when negotiations begin.
I don't think Sherman was the problem.


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01-14-2014, 11:51 AM
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Gotta keep ROR. Hell we gotta keep Paul aswell.

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01-14-2014, 11:52 AM
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I don't think Sherman was the problem.

The fat head Lacroixs were definetly the problem. Not just with the ROR situation but for many of the teams failures over the last 5 yrs or so. Getting rid of the fatso's was the best thing to happen to this organization in a long ass time.

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01-14-2014, 12:21 PM
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Yeah, you're right. So that means they shouldn't be throwing that kind of money around until there is. And hopefully we get someone better than Suter.
How are we going to get someone better than Suter? Suter is arguably the best defenseman in the NHL right now.

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01-14-2014, 12:28 PM
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The league needs a blockbuster trade to happen soon. It's too boring out there.

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How are we going to get someone better than Suter? Suter is arguably the best defenseman in the NHL right now.
A better question is how are we going to afford someone better than Suter? Within three years the Suter's of the NHL will be making 8-9 million a season out of free agency.

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01-14-2014, 12:32 PM
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A better question is how are we going to afford someone better than Suter? Within three years the Suter's of the NHL will be making 8-9 million a season out of free agency.
That brings up another question. Will ownership be willing to spend to the cap once we are fielding a contender? I have to think "yes", but it's been such a long time since we've been in that position, and I really don't have a sense of what the ownership's limits will be.

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01-14-2014, 12:34 PM
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A better question is how are we going to afford someone better than Suter? Within three years the Suter's of the NHL will be making 8-9 million a season out of free agency.
suter would get that now if he hit UFA.

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01-14-2014, 12:36 PM
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That brings up another question. Will ownership be willing to spend to the cap once we are fielding a contender? I have to think "yes", but it's been such a long time since we've been in that position, and I really don't have a sense of what the ownership's limits will be.
We'll never be a full cap team in my opinion, management enjoys flexibility. But I could see us operating at around 5 mil or less than the cap any given year as contenders.

I just can't see us being able to afford a tier 1 free agent if we don't pick them up within 1-2 years. They'll be too expensive soon and we have too much talent to secure that acquiring them will be a Hossa scenario that pushes out home grown players for a 1-2 year window.

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01-14-2014, 12:42 PM
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We'll never be a full cap team in my opinion, management enjoys flexibility. But I could see us operating at around 5 mil or less than the cap any given year as contenders.

I just can't see us being able to afford a tier 1 free agent if we don't pick them up within 1-2 years. They'll be too expensive soon and we have too much talent to secure that acquiring them will be a Hossa scenario that pushes out home grown players for a 1-2 year window.
Personally, I like the strategy of keeping a good cap cushion. I think there is a chance we see the Avs take advantage of our cap space this deadline to make some advantageous moves.

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01-14-2014, 12:45 PM
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How are we going to get someone better than Suter? Suter is arguably the best defenseman in the NHL right now.
That's arguable all right.

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01-14-2014, 12:47 PM
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I don't think Sherman was the problem.
Agreed, but I just remember how annoyed Sherman was when he held the presser announcing the Avs had matched the offer sheet. I think he was pissed because him and the organization got royally embarrassed and that he was forced to come out of his prairie dog hole to admit as much.

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01-14-2014, 12:51 PM
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That's arguable all right.
It's definitely arguable, but all-around I would say that he is probably the best.

Who would you have ahead of him? Can't be that many names on the list...

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01-14-2014, 12:57 PM
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It's definitely arguable, but all-around I would say that he is probably the best.

Who would you have ahead of him? Can't be that many names on the list...
I just don't think he's elite. I know I'm only one here who thinks so, but that's MHO. Very, very good, but not elite.

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01-14-2014, 01:04 PM
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I just don't think he's elite. I know I'm only one here who thinks so, but that's MHO. Very, very good, but not elite.
Yeah, I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that.

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01-14-2014, 01:08 PM
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I just don't think he's elite. I know I'm only one here who thinks so, but that's MHO. Very, very good, but not elite.
As a defenseman he is elite. He isn't the greatest offensively, but Suter is an absolute stud. He plays 30 minutes a game.

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01-14-2014, 01:09 PM
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Yeah, I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that.
Fair enough.

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01-14-2014, 01:35 PM
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I just don't think he's elite. I know I'm only one here who thinks so, but that's MHO. Very, very good, but not elite.
What just happened here?

Weber
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Keith

Any other top 3 is lunacy.

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01-14-2014, 01:38 PM
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What just happened here?

Weber
Suter
Keith

Any other top 3 is lunacy.
But, but, but... Subban and Karlsson... They won the Norris and...

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01-14-2014, 01:59 PM
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I don't want to derail this thread. Just not a fan of Suter. You're not gonna convince me otherwise, and you're certainly entitled to tell me I'm dead wrong. I just don't think he's worth the mega-contract he was given. That's my opinion, and we'll see in the end if I was right or not.

Anyhow, my original point was that if the Avs were gonna break open the bank for a free agent blueliner, I hope he's worth it. I certainly don't see a Suter-level defender on the market this offseason or any future offseason. But if there isn't anything decent out there I'm not a fan of throwing good money after someone who's not worth it. I'm growing tired of the refrain "He's a huge improvement over what we currently have in our bottom four." That doesn't mean we should automatically bring said defender in and it certainly doesn't mean we should throw gobs of money at him either.

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01-14-2014, 02:09 PM
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It's somewhat OT, but just realized the trade thread count is about to surpass the Superbowl count. Both are on XLVIII.

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01-14-2014, 02:13 PM
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We haven't been a very attractive option for free agents in the past just because of our management and cellar-dwelling ways but with the turnaround this year our team looks a lot more inviting. We saw Horton choose the Blue Jackets because of their infectious atmosphere last year. I know he was coerced with the offer they gave him but perhaps we could land a good defender because they want to play here. At least, that is what I am hoping happens with FA this summer.

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It's somewhat OT, but just realized the trade thread count is about to surpass the Superbowl count. Both are on XLVIII.
This thread lasted all of 10 days!

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