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[CommonMeans*]

Originally Posted by ZZamboni

That's a nice opinion. I won't say your opinion makes you wrong. I feel my opinion isn't in contradiction, doesn't need revision, and a world without unions isn't something I'm advocating. And I do know what unions do, and how most of them operate. Debating my opinion won't get you far. No amount of typing on your part will change what I've typed. But if you must ....

I never suggested you were advocating a world without unions. I merely stated that your view of unions, within the context of this forum, is one of contraction. On the one hand you show concern for individual voices, yet on the other hand discount the fact that these individual voices would fall on deaf ears in a unionless environment. It is not a co9mplicatecd contradiction. In fact, it is clear as day as far as I can tell.

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

Originally Posted by Ugene Malkin

And hiring Fehr and not negotiating before that 43% offer takes no premise on the NHLPA?

Those were bigger statements than Gary and the owners showing how bad the terms were in the players favor.

The NHLPA made theirs in just hiring, Fehr. He then refused to negotiate.

Had Gary not been hell bent on breaking the union the last CBA negotiation, Fehr probably doesn't get hired. Bettman has never treated the NHLPA with any sort of respect. I don't blame the union for hiring Fehr at all, though I am displeased with his actions.