Best F/D/G combination today?

[MessierII]

Originally Posted by Wingsfan2965

He's better than Backstrom, and yet you vote the Wild in at #2...

(Neither belong in the top five, just saying)

There's no possible way you can convince me Fleury is currently better than Backstrom.

[Wingsfan2965]

Originally Posted by MessierII

There's no possible way you can convince me Fleury is currently better than Backstrom.

Great, then I can just skip to and be done with it.

[MessierII]

Originally Posted by Wingsfan2965

Great, then I can just skip to and be done with it.

If there was any actual basis to suggest Fleury was a better goalie than Backstrom outside of "Fleury won a cup" I'd attempt to debate the topic. Unfortunately for you there is none. Backstrom has consistently put up superior numbers despite being on a vastly inferior team.

[Wingsfan2965]

Originally Posted by MessierII

If there was any actual basis to suggest Fleury was a better goalie than Backstrom outside of "Fleury won a cup" I'd attempt to debate the topic. Unfortunately for you there is none. Backstrom has consistently put up superior numbers despite being on a vastly inferior team.

Riding the bench for 20 extra nights a year helps.

And the Pens' defense is anything but good.

Either way the difference isn't nearly good enough to make up for the gaping wide gap between Malkin and Parise.

But as I said, neither team breaks the top five.

[Vancouver Blazers]

Outside opinion: Backstrom is better at goaltending than Fleury, but Fleury is still easily a top 30 goalie.

[MastuhNinks]

I wonder how long it is going to take for people to realize Fleury is a below average goalie.

[SnowblindNYR]

Originally Posted by MakeTheGoalsLarger

kopitar - doughty - quick

no other team has anything better than 2 good players and one who's average or unproven

I think that's an exaggeration. Off the top of my head all of Nash, McDonagh, and Lundqvist are above average. I don't even think they're #2. I know people think Nash is overrated and I can't blame them, but he's definitely better than average (or unproven).

Anyway, before clicking the thread I thought of LA and looks like HF agrees with me.

[SnowblindNYR]

Originally Posted by MessierII

Picked a bad time to call Fleury a top 15 goalie. He's gotta prove he's even top 30 at this point.

Besides, top 15 goalie sounds like the definition of average.

[Wingsfan2965]

Originally Posted by MastuhNinks

I wonder how long it is going to take for people to realize Fleury is a below average goalie.

I wouldn't say he's below average. He's not a star either.

But then, neither is Backstrom.

[MessierII]

Originally Posted by Wingsfan2965

I wouldn't say he's below average. He's not a star either.

But then, neither is Backstrom.

Backstrom has been nominated for the Vezna...

[Wingsfan2965]

Originally Posted by MessierII

Backstrom has been nominated for the Vezna...

Jim Carey won a Vezina. When you have a point, let me know.

[MessierII]

Originally Posted by Wingsfan2965

Jim Carey won a Vezina. When you have a point, let me know.

I'll make a poll Backstrom is already beating Rask in one but I can make one if you want.

[bleedblue1223]

Originally Posted by MakeTheGoalsLarger

kopitar - doughty - quick

no other team has anything better than 2 good players and one who's average or unproven

None of Backes, Pietrangelo, Halak are average or unproven.

[Endersoldier]

Pittsburgh was my original thought, until I remembered that Fleury was the goalie. LA it is for me. You get a terrific No. 1 centre, a dominant defenseman and Jonathan Quick.

[Wingsfan2965]

Originally Posted by MessierII

I'll make a poll Backstrom is already beating Rask in one but I can make one if you want.

I'm really indifferent as, like I already said, neither belong in the top five.

There are easily five other teams better than Minnesota in this regard.

[Vankiller Whale]

Originally Posted by bleedblue1223

None of Backes, Pietrangelo, Halak are average or unproven.

Backes is an average at best 1st line centre.

He'd definitely be on the 2nd line in:

Vancouver
Anaheim
Chicago
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
NYI
Los Angeles
San Jose
Ottawa
Philadelphia
Washington
Detroit

With Colorado, Dallas, Minnesota, Boston, NYR, NJD(Elias) all having strong cases.

[bigbadbruins7]

went with LA as most people

[DuckEatinShark]

I'm torn between LA and NYR.

[eva unit zero]

Originally Posted by MakeTheGoalsLarger

kopitar - doughty - quick

no other team has anything better than 2 good players and one who's average or unproven

What about Detroit?

Howard is a top-10 goalie, Datsyuk is one of the best centers in the league, and Kronwall is a top 15-20 defenseman.

Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale

Backes is an average at best 1st line centre.

He'd definitely be on the 2nd line in:

Pittsburgh

If Crosby's healthy, he's on the third line.

Detroit

He'd be third line in Detroit if you keep both Datsyuk and Zetterberg at center, although Z probably moves back out to wing. Same deal with Kesler; his game is better suited to the wing anyway if Vancouver can get some decent centers to be able to push him out. Something around Kesler/Kassian for Richards/Carter seems like a great partnership; maybe mix an Edler deal in there.

Speaking of Richards, Backes is also behind Richards in LA.

[Ziggy66]

LA for me

[zytz]

Between LA and Minny for me- but I went with LA because there's a clear edge in goal there, and forward/D combo were basically equal IMO.

[SnowblindNYR]

I notice there have been a handful of votes for Minnesota in the comments, but no votes in the poll. Why not?

[I Am Score*]

Easily Pittsburgh or New Jersey, although I hate both.

Should be Crosby instead of Malkin though.

Also:

Ovechkin/Green/Holtby not Neuvirth