Primeau wanted out of Detroit because he didn't like playing behind Yzerman and Fedorov.
how about shanahan in hartford? he only lasted one year there
and if detroit isn't a power house cup contender or if larionov isn't brought in you can bet fedorov doesn't sit happy playing second fiddle to yzerman too many years
Thats interesting to hear. I've heard Ward on TSN several times bring up playing for Carolina and how he and many others enjoyed playing and living there.
Yeah, I don't get it either really as he's still really well liked down here by the org and the players. But I think possibly going from a rising Bruins team where he was a veteran leader to a Canes team where he was just another guy in the room rubbed him the wrong way. And when they had such an unexpectedly rough start (13 game losing streak, team didn't hit the 10 win mark until right around the new year) he wanted out badly. It's weird, he'd probably be one of the first guys to recommend the Canes as a place to play... but for whatever reason that season he just flat out wanted out.
I'd love to see him get a colour commentating gig here but TSN likely blows anything that FSN could pay him out of the water.
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I don't know about the rest of you but I can't help but think Eric Staal is very unhappy in that death trap called Carolina. He doesn't seem motivated and isn't putting up the numbers he is capable of.
There was some talk earlier this year of the Canes putting some of their key pieces on the block to do a full rebuild, including Staal. He said (not sure where, think it was an interview on the local ESPN station) that he had no interest in waiving his NTC to leave here.
Boston...Not many rumors get out about players wanting out. Sinden usually traded them first. Though nothing was ever said Sergei Gonchar seemed tremendously unhappy in Boston.....He just didn't fit from day one and everyone knew it, especially Gonchar.
A more recent one was Jiri Dopita in 2002. Hailed by the Hockey News as the best player outside of North America in 2000-2001, Dopita was miserable in his only year in Philly. It didn't help that injuries and his play was sub par throughout the year, which relegated him to 4th line center. He was dumped to Edmonton for a 2003 1st rounder that turned out to be Mike Richards. Dopita played a year in Edmonton before returning to Europe.
2002-Jun-19 Traded from Philadelphia Flyers to Edmonton Oilers for round 3 pick in the 2003 draft and round 5 pick in the 2004 draft
The guaranteed way to get out of Colorado in the past was to stage a contract holdout. Even if it was resolved, Pierre Lacroix usually made certain your time with the Avs was limited. Wendel Clark, Sandis Ozolinsh, Chris Simon, Chris Drury, and Adam Deadmarsh all left in this fashion.
I don't ever recall an Avs player outright requesting a trade, but most people have read comments Kyle Quincey made on his way out the door. T.J. Galiardi actually said to Daniel Winnik "Take me with you" upon finding out the latter had been traded, only to find out he too was part of the same deal.
I don't really recall a "good riddance" situation with the Avs (well, maybe Bates Battaglia, God did he suck) but those are the only players I can recall who left on less-than-stellar terms.
Wayne Gretzky demanded the Kings to make some upgrades or trade him during the 1995-96 season. The Kings had gone through bankruptcy with a corrupt team owner, they were sold to another fraudulent group who had insufficient funds, and then were finally stabilized when they were purchased by Philip Anschutz and Edward Roski. The Kings had no real direction at the time and Gretzky was starting to decline (as were his old teammates). So the Kings fulfilled Gretzky's demands and kick started a rebuild by sending him to St. Louis for Craig Johnson, Roman Vopat, Patrice Tardif and a 1st round pick and a fifth round pick.
Shawn McEachern wasn't happy when he was dealt from Pittsburgh to LA. Months later, the Kings and Penguins would reacquire the players they had previously dealt, with the Kings sending McEachern to Pittsburgh along with Tomas Sandstrom to bring McSorley back, along with Jim Paek. The original trade didn't work out well for both clubs so they went ahead and undid it. http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-...marty-mcsorley
I believe Marcel Dionne also made similar demands as Gretzky did in asking the team to improve or to trade him. They ended up trading Dionne to the Rangers for Bobby Carpenter and Tom Laidlaw.
It's been a while since someone really wanted off the Canucks.
Bure was the last one I can remember. Before that, Craig Janney refused to report when we traded for him, and waaay back Fred O'Donnell jumped to the WHA rather than join the Canucks in a trade.
The guaranteed way to get out of Colorado in the past was to stage a contract holdout. Even if it was resolved, Pierre Lacroix usually made certain your time with the Avs was limited. Wendel Clark, Sandis Ozolinsh, Chris Simon, Chris Drury, and Adam Deadmarsh all left in this fashion.
I don't ever recall an Avs player outright requesting a trade, but most people have read comments Kyle Quincey made on his way out the door. T.J. Galiardi actually said to Daniel Winnik "Take me with you" upon finding out the latter had been traded, only to find out he too was part of the same deal.
I don't really recall a "good riddance" situation with the Avs (well, maybe Bates Battaglia, God did he suck) but those are the only players I can recall who left on less-than-stellar terms.
Deadmarsh's departure had nothing to do with contract demands and everything to do with wanting Rob Blake.
I certainly don't have any proof for this but I can't imagine Igor Larionov liking being in Florida. It was his own doing. He signed there as a free agent before the 2000-'01 season. Then three months into the season he is traded back to Detroit. This was the only time in the last decade where he wasn't a Red Wing. I mean, can you imagine the contrast between those two teams?
Miro Satan prior to the 2004 trade deadline scored a goal for the Sabres and then made a gesture like he was on the phone which I thought symbolized him enticing GMs to make a trade for him. You get the feeling he wasn't overly happy in Buffalo.
Did Turgeon want out of Montreal in 1996? They traded him the day after he had a 4 assist night. Seemed like a rushed deal because the Canadiens got nothing in return for him. Turgeon, Rory Fitzpatrick and a young Craig Conroy for Shayne Corson and Murray Baron. Yikes! I don't care how much sandpaper you want on your team, there is no way Corson replaces Turgeon. Anyway was it just Turgeon playing his way out of Montreal or was that just another terrible trade Rejean Houle did? Or both? Probably both. Houle made John Ferguson Jr. look like Sam Pollock
Terrible trade by Houle after a bad start to the season by the team. Turgeon was criticized heavily for the playoff debacle the year prior. It is similar to what Gauthier does now (except on a far worse scale). Knee jerk trades that always cost the team. To think at one time Montreal had Turgeon, Damphousse, Koivu and Conroy at the same time. Not even the Red Wings could match that kind of depth at the middle at the time. Montreal easily would have been a power house in the late 90s/early 00s with the roster that Houle destroyed. Houle took Roy, Recchi, Turgeon, Damphousse, and Conroy and turned it into Thibault, Rucinsky, Zubrus and Corson. That my friends is how turn an emerging powerhouse into a nightmare.
I certainly don't have any proof for this but I can't imagine Igor Larionov liking being in Florida. It was his own doing. He signed there as a free agent before the 2000-'01 season. Then three months into the season he is traded back to Detroit. This was the only time in the last decade where he wasn't a Red Wing. I mean, can you imagine the contrast between those two teams?
He also played a season in New Jersey (03-04 I believe).
Terrible trade by Houle after a bad start to the season by the team. Turgeon was criticized heavily for the playoff debacle the year prior. It is similar to what Gauthier does now (except on a far worse scale). Knee jerk trades that always cost the team. To think at one time Montreal had Turgeon, Damphousse, Koivu and Conroy at the same time. Not even the Red Wings could match that kind of depth at the middle at the time. Montreal easily would have been a power house in the late 90s/early 00s with the roster that Houle destroyed. Houle took Roy, Recchi, Turgeon, Damphousse, and Conroy and turned it into Thibault, Rucinsky, Zubrus and Corson. That my friends is how turn an emerging powerhouse into a nightmare.
Hypothetical 1999-2000, with the original Roy trade, keeping Recchi, Damphousse and Conroy, using the their 1999 first rounder to get Chelios instead of Linden (both were traded for a 1st rounder on the same trade deadline, this isn't totally ridiculous), and not signing a pile of barely-top 6 Russians (Petrov, Zholtok, etc)
Owen Nolan - Pierre Turgeon - Mark Recchi
Vince Damphousse - Saku Koivu - Brian Savage
Benoit Brunet - Craig Conroy - Turner Stevenson
Arron Asham - Craig Darby - Jim Cummins
Chris Chelios - Vladimir Malakhov
Patrice Brisebois - Eric Weinrich
Craig Rivet - Karl Dykhuis
Jose Theodore
Stephane Fiset
That would be a starting point, anyway. Certainly no worse than the Leafs, Sens, or any of the East teams besides the Devils and Flyers.
I certainly don't have any proof for this but I can't imagine Igor Larionov liking being in Florida. It was his own doing. He signed there as a free agent before the 2000-'01 season. Then three months into the season he is traded back to Detroit. This was the only time in the last decade where he wasn't a Red Wing. I mean, can you imagine the contrast between those two teams?
Miro Satan prior to the 2004 trade deadline scored a goal for the Sabres and then made a gesture like he was on the phone which I thought symbolized him enticing GMs to make a trade for him. You get the feeling he wasn't overly happy in Buffalo.
Did Turgeon want out of Montreal in 1996? They traded him the day after he had a 4 assist night. Seemed like a rushed deal because the Canadiens got nothing in return for him. Turgeon, Rory Fitzpatrick and a young Craig Conroy for Shayne Corson and Murray Baron. Yikes! I don't care how much sandpaper you want on your team, there is no way Corson replaces Turgeon. Anyway was it just Turgeon playing his way out of Montreal or was that just another terrible trade Rejean Houle did? Or both? Probably both. Houle made John Ferguson Jr. look like Sam Pollock
That I recall detroit didnt want to pay larionov a mil a season. They wanted to pay him like the league minimum or some ********. I recall reading about it in the paper so he decided to leave with the chance to play with bure. Of course Keenan had diff ideas and when larionov said he refused to dump the puck in, he said he was going to play him on the checking line for the rest of the season till he learned how to play the game or something? lol Keenan ended up getting fired, and bure was told ahead of time or something? So he tells larionov about it but he already had enough of Flordia after that so he agreed to a trade or something to that extent.
I belive this site use to have some stories like this on it, but from the looks of it theyve all been taken down.
There of course was a similar situation in san jose before he got traded to detroit where larionov refused to dump the puck in so constatine dressed him only to bench him 2 games straight or something? Funny to because theres actually a interview with constantine years later and he even goes on to say that larionov is the best player hes ever coached, but obviously not all was well between them whatever the case. If your bored you really can find a lot of older articles in the earlier days of the internet with mailing lists with lots of articles etc.. I just would have to go back and dig through em' all to get quotes for em'.
Nedved and Bure are the most famous cases in Vancouver, but there have been a few lower-profile instances over the years.
Gerald Diduck asked for a trade to an American team during the lockout-shortened season because (so the story goes) his wife wasn't a big fan of living in Canada. Eventually he got shipped to Chicago during the lockout year as Quinn dismantled the 1994 team.
Jan Bullis reportedly asked to be moved during the 2006-07 season because he wasn't getting enough ice time, but nothing ever came of it.
Nedved also wanted out of Pittsburgh and held out for more $. Eventually he was sent packing and Kovalev was sent to pgh
I'm not sure that he wanted out of Boston in general, but he became an RFA and Burke started flirting with him and he clearly wanted to go to the league's biggest market and be their highest paid player. Nashville also expressed interest, but Kessel and his dad pretty much leaked info that he would not sign anywhere other than Toronto. I'd say the whole fiasco worked out well for Boston.
Derek Morris was a strange case too. He signed as a UFA, played most of the year, and got traded back to Phoenix at the deadline, and they picked up Seidenberg in another deal to replace him. I'm not sure if they just didn't think he meshed as a player and that Seidenberg would be better, or if Morris wasn't a good lockerroom guy or wanted to be back home in Phoenix. All I know is that the way he came and left was odd.
I certainly don't have any proof for this but I can't imagine Igor Larionov liking being in Florida. It was his own doing. He signed there as a free agent before the 2000-'01 season. Then three months into the season he is traded back to Detroit. This was the only time in the last decade where he wasn't a Red Wing. I mean, can you imagine the contrast between those two teams?
Miro Satan prior to the 2004 trade deadline scored a goal for the Sabres and then made a gesture like he was on the phone which I thought symbolized him enticing GMs to make a trade for him. You get the feeling he wasn't overly happy in Buffalo.
Did Turgeon want out of Montreal in 1996? They traded him the day after he had a 4 assist night. Seemed like a rushed deal because the Canadiens got nothing in return for him. Turgeon, Rory Fitzpatrick and a young Craig Conroy for Shayne Corson and Murray Baron. Yikes! I don't care how much sandpaper you want on your team, there is no way Corson replaces Turgeon. Anyway was it just Turgeon playing his way out of Montreal or was that just another terrible trade Rejean Houle did? Or both? Probably both. Houle made John Ferguson Jr. look like Sam Pollock
Turgeon wanted out of Montreal. Montreal was pretty deep down the middle with Koivu, Damphousse and Turgeon. Koivu was in his second year and leading the team in scoring, while Turgeon was now playing wing or 3rd line C. He was never comfortable in the limelight, and in Montreal, even 4th liners are treated like Hollywood A-list. Houle was the GM and did one of his typical deals. I love Corson, but even I can admit that Houle didn't get nearly enough for the Tin Man.
