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04-01-2012, 12:32 PM
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Only Brodeur could put up those numbers and be called a tremendous season.

It's because of his reputation and past accomplishments.

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how many row wins does he have?
None, Roy retired when he was 36.

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He's been playing quite well stats wise since the All-Star game.

I don't think he's anywhere close to prime Brodeur but he's not a bad goalie yet.

IIRC he switched to larger pads since the break, I guess the size of pads do play a huge role.

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Serious question.

The league average SV% is .914. Marty has a .906 which means he is 0.08 below average. Aka 90.6 saves per 100 shots vs 91.4 saves per 100 shots. 9.4 goals allowed vs 8.6.

Is that a significant difference?

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Only Brodeur could put up those numbers and be called a tremendous season.

It's because of his reputation and past accomplishments.
And he's doing it at 39...and he's been tremendous since the all star break...and because during our rough stretches he's the only one who was ready to play, but yea, once again, keep watching those stats, Roger.

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04-01-2012, 12:51 PM
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The league average SV% is .914. Thomas has a .920. Rinne has a .922. Fleury has a .914.

.920 > .914
.922 > .914
.914 = .914

Only Fleury has an "average" SV%.

The best goalie in the league has had 14 games with a SV% less under .900.
There are currently 20 goalies above .914.

So are you saying they are all top goalies?

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Serious question.

The league average SV% is .914. Marty has a .906 which means he is 0.08 below average. Aka 90.6 saves per 100 shots vs 91.4 saves per 100 shots. 9.4 goals allowed vs 8.6.

Is that a significant difference?
Assuming 65 games at 27 shots/game (what the Devils are averaging), it amounts to a difference of 11 goals per season. That's about another 3 wins or so.

GVT has Brodeur as costing his team 0.8 goals this season versus the rate of replacement. Whereas Varlamov, at league average and slightly less games played, has contributed 9.7 goals above replacement.

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04-01-2012, 01:04 PM
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There's seriously outrage about one line in an NHL fluff piece about the Devils clinching?


That being said: semantics.
Brodeur isn't have a tremendous season. But he's performed tremendously for the Devils this season.

He can still steal games when things break down, keep the team in front of him confident to push offensively and stay sharp enough to get through 65 minutes of play and come up huge in the shootout when needed (Toronto game rare exception).

It's what his team needs and he more than provides it for them.
There was a slow start for everyone this season with a new coach and a new system. Brodeur was also shaking off the rust from an injury. On top of that, the team suffered a defense that was a grand mix of young, soft and injured.

But 79 games into the season, Brodeur is still a good goalie doing exactly what he needs to do, and as a Devils fan, that's all I care about.

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"Tremendous" is being used as a buzzword in a generic article. Like when a mall or bar advertises "Come meet NHL Star Cam Janssen/Mike Rupp/Insert other 4th liner!!"; that particular player isn't a "star", but the ad is using it as a catchy buzzword

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To be honest Marty has had great games since ASB, a few real bad ones too. The biggest reason I feel he's doing beter than most is he's playing behind a very weak defensive team. Marty has declined last 3 years or so, but look at his defence, and his 2 way players (backcheckers). Imagine Brodeur's stats if he had Rinne's, Fleury's, Thomas's team in front. I hate when goalie's get bashed when their team is weak defensively. Like sayin Kipper is crap. Give your head a shake.

Brodeur MVP for 2012 playoffs !!!

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A .906 save percentage is awful in 2012.

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04-01-2012, 02:49 PM
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There are currently 20 goalies above .914.

So are you saying they are all top goalies?
Semantics driven arguments are not winnable.

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Brodeur has been absolutely terrible for most of the past two seasons. NHL.com is smoking something good.

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Brodeur has been money the second half of the last two seasons and won some other games on his own despite an awful coach.

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He's not having a tremendous season, it's just a tire pumping phrase. Let's not go crazy over it.

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He's not having a tremendous season, it's just a tire pumping phrase. Let's not go crazy over it.
What do you mean by that?

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He's not having a tremendous season, it's just a tire pumping phrase. Let's not go crazy over it.
Seriously, it's a fluff piece.
They're not arguing he should get a Vezina or anything.

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Marty's been interesting this year, for sure.

Pre-ASB, he was abysmal. Anyone would tell you that.

Post-ASB, he's been much better. Much, much better.

He's been letting up a token softy or two pretty much every other game. But fans of our opponents will be quick to note that he's made 3 or 4 incredible saves in each of those games that no one had any business stopping.

He's been an enigma this year, is the best way to put it. Only three shutouts. The third was last night, against Carolina after they played and were eliminated the night before. The first was against the Rangers, two hours after he found out that his dad had a brain tumor.

Moose has been great this year but the team very obviously tightens up in front of him, because he doesn't play all that often.

Tremendous is an interesting word choice, but it's NHL.com, so, you know.


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And he's doing it at 39...and he's been tremendous since the all star break...and because during our rough stretches he's the only one who was ready to play, but yea, once again, keep watching those stats, Roger.
He hasn't been tremendous. End of story.

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He hasn't been tremendous. End of story.
Air your grievances here:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/feedback.htm

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Given all he's accomplished at his career, given that he's still a legit starter at his age, and given that he is not suffering a Roloson-esque meltdown....I've gotta give him some props. Brodeur's a living legend.
I still fear that the Roloson-esque meltdown is coming. Marty wants to come back for next season, and it's inevitable that the irreversible decline will happen. I just hope it doesn't burn the Devils like it did Tampa this season. Lou needs a proper contingency plan.

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What do you mean by that?
I mean this hasn't been has been a great season for him, it's been an average one, especially for his standards. But they're going to say he's had a great season because he's a great player and there is no real reason to go into any more detail than that.

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