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Damien Brunner?

MOD EDIT: Merge-related shenanigans.

2012-13 LOOKAHEAD

As always, all figures are cap numbers, not salaries, and are taken directly from www.capgeek.com.


Estimated 2012-2013 salary ceiling: .~70,300,000
Projected cap spending: .....................61,566,667
Projected cap space: ...........................8,733,333


PITTSBURGH PENGUINS
Forward.................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Sidney Crosby
C
24
8,700,000
UFA
 
Evgeni Malkin
C
25
8,700,000
8,700,000
UFA
James Neal
LW
24
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Jordan Staal
C
23
4,000,000
UFA
 
Chris Kunitz
LW
32
3,725,000
3,725,000
UFA
Tyler Kennedy
RW
25
2,000,000
RFA
 
Matt Cooke
LW
33
1,800,000
UFA
 
Pascal Dupuis
LW
32
1,500,000
UFA
 
Craig Adams
RW
34
675,000
UFA
 
Dustin Jeffrey
C
23
575,000
RFA
 
Joe Vitale
C
26
550,000
550,000
UFA
Defense.................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Paul Martin
D
30
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Zbynek Michalek
D
29
4,000,000
4,000,000
4,000,000
Brooks Orpik
D
31
3,750,000
3,750,000
UFA
Kris Letang
D
24
3,500,000
3,500,000
UFA
Deryk Engelland
D
29
566,667
566,667
UFA
Ben Lovejoy
D
27
525,000
UFA
 
Goalie....................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Marc-Andre Fleury
G
27
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Tomas Vokoun
G
35
2,000,000
2,000,000
UFA



WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS
Forward...............
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Beau Bennett
RW
20
900,000
900,000
900,000
Brian Gibbons
C
23
900,000
RFA
 
Paul Thompson
LW
23
900,000
RFA
 
Adam Payerl
C
21
850,000
850,000
850,000
Nick Petersen
RW
22
566,667
RFA
 
Zach Sill
C
23
535,000
RFA
 
Defense...............
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Philip Samuelsson
D
20
900,000
900,000
RFA
Simon Despres
D
20
840,000
840,000
RFA
Goalie..................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Patrick Killeen
G
21
548,333
RFA
 



UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player..................
Pos.
Age
2011-12
News & Notes
Steve Sullivan
LW
37
1,500,000
Seems to be a significant help to the power play
Arron Asham
RW
33
775,000
Suspension probably punched ticket out of town
Brent Johnson
G
34
600,000
Game suddenly fell off a cliff this winter
Steve MacIntyre
LW
31
600,000
Is Shero's stance on enforcers changing?
Alexandre Picard
D
26
600,000
Will likely move along for a better crack at the NHL
Jason Williams
RW
31
600,000
Signed with Ambri-Piotta (NLA)
Richard Park
RW
35
550,000
Reasonable option as a 13th/14th forward
Ryan Craig
C
30
525,000
WBS captain two years running
Colin McDonald
RW
27
525,000
Dropped off to just 14 goals this season
Scott Munroe
G
30
525,000
Veteran AHL option who can carry the load
Brad Thiessen
G
25
525,000
Group VI UFA -- Spring NHL audition underwhelming



RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player..................
Pos.
Age
2011-12
News & Notes
Matt Niskanen
D
25
1,500,000
Keep him around or make room for Despres and Co.?
Mattias Modig
G
24
875,000
Spent entire season in Europe rehabbing from injury
Keven Veilleux
C
22
854,167
Injured -- Typically cursed 2nd round pick
Casey Pierro-Zabotel
LW
23
850,000
Already banished from the organization
Carl Sneep
D
24
850,000
Still lagging behind many other defensive prospects
Brian Strait
D
24
850,000
A good bet to stick with the big club as a 6/7 option
Eric Tangradi
LW
23
845,833
Skillset sadly hasn't endeared him to Bylsma
Alex Grant
D
23
790,000
Likely saved pro career with showing on power play
Boris Valabik
D
26
550,000
Injuries ruined season -- just misses Group VI cutoff
Robert Bortuzzo
D
22
535,000
Pens like him, but will he make it through waivers?
Cal O'Reilly
C
25
525,000
Slow start, then chipped in a few big playoff goals



SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
Pos.
Age
Current Team
Contract
Joe Morrow
D
19
Portland (WHL)
3 years/925,000 per
Scott Harrington
D
18
London (OHL)
3 years/925,000 per
Tom Kuhnhackl
F
20
Niagara (OHL)
3 years/850,000 per
Dominik Uher
F
19
Spokane (WHL)
3 years/585,000 per
Reid McNeill
D
20
Barrie (OHL)
3 years/558,333 per



UNSIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
Pos.
Age
Current Team (League)
Kenny Agostino
F
19
Yale (ECAC)
Josh Archibald
F
19
Nebraska-Omaha (WCHA)
Nick D'Agostino
D
21
Cornell (ECAC)
Patrick Ehelechner
G
27
Nürnberg (DEL)
Ben Hanowski
F
21
St. Cloud State (WCHA)
Alexander Pechurskiy
G
21
Klin (VHL)
Joe Rogalski
D
20
Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
Bryan Rust
F
19
Notre Dame (CCHA)
Alex Velischek
D
21
Providence (HEA)
Scott Wilson
F
19
UMass-Lowell (HEA)


ORIGINAL BRUNNER THREAD:

Hello everybody!

There is a lot of speculation in Switzerland around Damien Brunner. Some of them say that the Penguins could be interested in him.
It seems kind of legit, since Brunner is a RW, but still... the Pens already have more than enough offence.

Brunner finished the regular season as the "NLA Topscorer" with 60pts in 45GP. In the playoffs, he finished 3rd with the same amount of points (14) as the 1st in 9GP (1st: 14GP). Means he has the highest PPG in the PO.

Source:
http://www.nationalleague.ch/NL/spiele/de/statistik_nla.php

He has some fine hands and a nice wrister.


Some highlights 2008 - 2012

Game against the Rangers (preseason). Goal by Brunner @3:21

I'm not really sure what I should think about that. Yes, Brunner's talented. But he has to change from the NLA to the NHL and I don't really know how his game transists to the smaller rink AND bigger D-men, since he's only around 5'11" (as far as I remember).

What do you guys think?


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04-20-2012, 09:45 AM
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Yeah. Someone claimed we were the early favorites to sign him a while back. Not sure if that's changed. We'll see. We can always use another winger.

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Some of the stuff he's doing in that video won't be able to be pulled off in the NHL. Also he's 26 years old, so why isn't he in the NHL already?

It would be a low risk signing since I can't see him being offered that much money, but I don't think we need him.

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Some of the stuff he's doing in that video won't be able to be pulled off in the NHL. Also he's 26 years old, so why isn't he in the NHL already?

It would be a low risk signing since I can't see him being offered that much money, but I don't think we need him.
He had some serious issues with his coach while he was playing in Kloten, so he never really got the chance to tear it up until 2008, when he was traded to Zug.
It seems like he already had offers from clubs in the NHL, but wanted to stay in Switzerland, since he just came back from an injury.
But legit point.


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Whoops, haven't seen this one. Sorry

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He had some serious issues with his coach while he was playing in Kloten, so he never really got the chance to tear it up until 2008, when he was traded to Zug.
It seems like he already had offers from clubs in the NHL, but wanted to stay in Switzerland, since he just came back from an injury.
But legit point.




Whoops, haven't seen this one. Sorry
no problem, you weren't here then.

I think he's worth giving a 1 year contract, at the least he should be able to put up decent numbers in the AHL.


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Is he dirty? Otherwise he'll never fit in here

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Is he dirty? Otherwise he'll never fit in here
Not really, 48pim in the regular season. 14x2' / 2x10' (comparison: Top 10 in the league are between 75pim and 112pim)

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If we do sign him, it will likely be on a two way deal and if he doesn't make the team, he will go to WBS or back to Europe, don't know how good this guy is.

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But does he have a gold helmet?


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But does he have a gold helmet?


Not really



But his helmet is on fire!

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The first thing that stands out to me in this video is this player has an incredibly deceptive release. He's not disguising when he's going to shoot; he's disguising where, and he's really, really, really good at it. Low stick, high glove, high stick...can't tell before the puck leaves his stick.

The second thing that stands out is these defenses are giving him looks he would never get outside the current playoff series or a game against Winnipeg.

Penguins should be interested in Brunner, but I can't really tell if he'd be effective or not because he's being defended in ways he would not be in the NHL.

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Uh does he know how to pass?

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Not really



But his helmet is on fire!
Is that the same player cause one is a lefty and the other a righty?

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Is that the same player cause one is a lefty and the other a righty?
No, the one with the gold helmet is Janne Pesonen, the other player is Damien Brunner.

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No, the one with the gold helmet is Janne Pesonen, the other player is Damien Brunner.
ok makes sense, I was starting to get confused

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36 of his 60 points in the regular season were assists. 11 of 14 in the PO

He's a decent passer with a good vision, but his big strength is, as already mentioned, his release.

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I clicked this link, and the first image I was met with at the top right corner was Stars of the National League: Joel Kwiatkowski.

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I clicked this link, and the first image I was met with at the top right corner was Stars of the National League: Joel Kwiatkowski.


The rumor has apparently been going on long enough that I'd have to believe that there's some credence to it. Brunner isn't going to be handed a top six role, but he'll probably be given a chance to make the team as a 13th forward if he does sign.

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I clicked this link, and the first image I was met with at the top right corner was Stars of the National League: Joel Kwiatkowski.
Oh no

I hate this banner. Kwiatkowski isn't really a "star" in our league. This site just chooses a random player and shows him there

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Off-Season Discussion - Part IV (Cap Info in Post 1)

The info below is from Shureshot's original post in the prior thread. Continue on and keep it clean!


2012-13 LOOKAHEAD

As always, all figures are cap numbers, not salaries, and are taken directly from www.capgeek.com.


Estimated 2012-2013 salary ceiling: .~70,300,000
Projected cap spending: .....................61,566,667
Projected cap space: ...........................8,733,333


PITTSBURGH PENGUINS
Forward.................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Sidney Crosby
C
24
8,700,000
UFA
 
Evgeni Malkin
C
25
8,700,000
8,700,000
UFA
James Neal
LW
24
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Jordan Staal
C
23
4,000,000
UFA
 
Chris Kunitz
LW
32
3,725,000
3,725,000
UFA
Tyler Kennedy
RW
25
2,000,000
RFA
 
Matt Cooke
LW
33
1,800,000
UFA
 
Pascal Dupuis
LW
32
1,500,000
UFA
 
Craig Adams
RW
34
675,000
UFA
 
Dustin Jeffrey
C
23
575,000
RFA
 
Joe Vitale
C
26
550,000
550,000
UFA
Defense.................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Paul Martin
D
30
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Zbynek Michalek
D
29
4,000,000
4,000,000
4,000,000
Brooks Orpik
D
31
3,750,000
3,750,000
UFA
Kris Letang
D
24
3,500,000
3,500,000
UFA
Deryk Engelland
D
29
566,667
566,667
UFA
Ben Lovejoy
D
27
525,000
UFA
 
Goalie....................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Marc-Andre Fleury
G
27
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
Tomas Vokoun
G
35
2,000,000
2,000,000
UFA



WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS
Forward...............
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Beau Bennett
RW
20
900,000
900,000
900,000
Brian Gibbons
C
23
900,000
RFA
 
Paul Thompson
LW
23
900,000
RFA
 
Adam Payerl
C
21
850,000
850,000
850,000
Nick Petersen
RW
22
566,667
RFA
 
Zach Sill
C
23
535,000
RFA
 
Defense...............
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Philip Samuelsson
D
20
900,000
900,000
RFA
Simon Despres
D
20
840,000
840,000
RFA
Goalie..................
Pos.
Age
2012-13
2013-14
2014-15
Patrick Killeen
G
21
548,333
RFA
 



UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player..................
Pos.
Age
2011-12
News & Notes
Steve Sullivan
LW
37
1,500,000
Seems to be a significant help to the power play
Arron Asham
RW
33
775,000
Suspension probably punched ticket out of town
Brent Johnson
G
34
600,000
Game suddenly fell off a cliff this winter
Steve MacIntyre
LW
31
600,000
Is Shero's stance on enforcers changing?
Alexandre Picard
D
26
600,000
Will likely move along for a better crack at the NHL
Jason Williams
RW
31
600,000
Signed with Ambri-Piotta (NLA)
Richard Park
RW
35
550,000
Reasonable option as a 13th/14th forward
Ryan Craig
C
30
525,000
WBS captain two years running
Colin McDonald
RW
27
525,000
Dropped off to just 14 goals this season
Scott Munroe
G
30
525,000
Veteran AHL option who can carry the load
Brad Thiessen
G
25
525,000
Group VI UFA -- Spring NHL audition underwhelming



RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player..................
Pos.
Age
2011-12
News & Notes
Matt Niskanen
D
25
1,500,000
Keep him around or make room for Despres and Co.?
Mattias Modig
G
24
875,000
Spent entire season in Europe rehabbing from injury
Keven Veilleux
C
22
854,167
Injured -- Typically cursed 2nd round pick
Casey Pierro-Zabotel
LW
23
850,000
Already banished from the organization
Carl Sneep
D
24
850,000
Still lagging behind many other defensive prospects
Brian Strait
D
24
850,000
A good bet to stick with the big club as a 6/7 option
Eric Tangradi
LW
23
845,833
Skillset sadly hasn't endeared him to Bylsma
Alex Grant
D
23
790,000
Likely saved pro career with showing on power play
Boris Valabik
D
26
550,000
Injuries ruined season -- just misses Group VI cutoff
Robert Bortuzzo
D
22
535,000
Pens like him, but will he make it through waivers?
Cal O'Reilly
C
25
525,000
Slow start, then chipped in a few big playoff goals



SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
Pos.
Age
Current Team
Contract
Joe Morrow
D
19
Portland (WHL)
3 years/925,000 per
Scott Harrington
D
18
London (OHL)
3 years/925,000 per
Tom Kuhnhackl
F
20
Niagara (OHL)
3 years/850,000 per
Dominik Uher
F
19
Spokane (WHL)
3 years/585,000 per
Reid McNeill
D
20
Barrie (OHL)
3 years/558,333 per



UNSIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
Pos.
Age
Current Team (League)
Kenny Agostino
F
19
Yale (ECAC)
Josh Archibald
F
19
Nebraska-Omaha (WCHA)
Nick D'Agostino
D
21
Cornell (ECAC)
Patrick Ehelechner
G
27
Nürnberg (DEL)
Ben Hanowski
F
21
St. Cloud State (WCHA)
Alexander Pechurskiy
G
21
Klin (VHL)
Joe Rogalski
D
20
Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
Bryan Rust
F
19
Notre Dame (CCHA)
Alex Velischek
D
21
Providence (HEA)
Scott Wilson
F
19
UMass-Lowell (HEA)


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