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03-19-2012, 11:09 AM
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Torts is an idiot. Stralman is better than Bickel defensively and infinitely better offensively.
Stralman has looked far worse in his own end over the last couple weeks than Bickel has. Stralman's offense has been average at best, while Bickel's aggressiveness has been highly noticeable and quite effective.

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03-19-2012, 11:49 AM
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Stralman has looked far worse in his own end over the last couple weeks than Bickel has. Stralman's offense has been average at best, while Bickel's aggressiveness has been highly noticeable and quite effective.
Agreed. Stralman has been a disaster in his own end over the past couple of weeks. Add to that the fact that his offensive game has been pedestrian at best.

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03-19-2012, 12:05 PM
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Judging from the practice notes, it looks like Boyle has been demoted to 4th line. I even think he has been slotted as a winger. Good move if you ask me. With Anismov still out though, who is our third line center? Feds?

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03-19-2012, 12:55 PM
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Judging from the practice notes, it looks like Boyle has been demoted to 4th line. I even think he has been slotted as a winger. Good move if you ask me. With Anismov still out though, who is our third line center? Feds?
Fedetenko does not belong taking Boyle's place. Unless you hav a better 3rd line replacement, Boyle is the best choice.


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03-19-2012, 01:00 PM
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Judging from the practice notes, it looks like Boyle has been demoted to 4th line. I even think he has been slotted as a winger. Good move if you ask me. With Anismov still out though, who is our third line center? Feds?
zucc - boyle - mitchell is the 3rd line tonight.

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03-19-2012, 01:23 PM
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Stralman played very well for a while but has been struggling.

This is not just a matter of who can skate, pass or shoot best. There's more factoring into this than just a skills competition. Bickel plays a hard game and tends to make safe plays. He plays within his ability. It's not spectacular but for a No. 6 d-man it's been better than okay.

Is Wellman really better than Mitchell?--If Wellman can't play in the top 6--then he's with Rupp, MZA and whoever too--which almost begs the question--how good is he at grinding? I haven't seen a whole lot of Wellman but I doubt he'd be better in Mitchell's spot.

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03-19-2012, 01:57 PM
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zucc - boyle - mitchell is the 3rd line tonight.
Who is our defensive matchup line? I doubt Zucc and mitchell are going to be used for that capacity. On top of that I doubt that line gets more than 10 minutes tonight.

The only way that makes sense is if our second line is going to be our defensive matchup line.

I don't think this line is offensively potent(nor do I think it was constructed as such). It would just be a minutes eater/stop gap against lower lines, which is how Zuc and Mitchell have been used so far.


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Part of me thinks that both parties are desperate.

Avery isn't making money reviewing reality shows on Bravo. He knows what butters his bread and the Rangers are at a loss, Wellman? Who the F***is Wellman?!?!?!?

I think the stars of desperation might align. I've always been an Avery mark, so it might be wishful thinking, but with a clear head I can honestly say that Avery replacing Arty is the best move this team can make.
He cant be called up this year. Had to be placed on re entry waiwer before deadline, so the ship has sailed.


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Anisimov had shoulder injury. Reporters should ask how did he feel pulling up his skate laces. Sure he would feel alright skating. Did he hit anyone? I doubt it. It is another week or two. No need to rush back.

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03-19-2012, 03:05 PM
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Anisimov had shoulder injury. Reporters should ask how did he feel pulling up his skate laces. Sure he would feel alright skating. Did he hit anyone? I doubt it. It is another week or two. No need to rush back.
I don't think he is out that long. From reports he seems he probably will be back within two games.

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03-19-2012, 03:10 PM
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the fact that he was even on the ice is great news. This looked like it could be season ending originally. With the way this team is banged up, if hes ready to go full sleep for the playoffs Id be more than happy with that.

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Sean will need to break in a new pair skates. He threw his skates into the Hudson River. Sean didn't realize the Hudson threw them back at him. Sean Avery? Ha Ha.
Three years down the line, after Avery is comfortably retired and enjoying a life in the fashion industry, as soon as the Rangers hit a cold streak people will be calling for him to be signed, claiming that the Rangers can "use what he brings." And clinging to the idea that the only reason he's not playing hockey anymore is because of John Tortorella.

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Three years down the line, after Avery is comfortably retired and enjoying a life in the fashion industry, as soon as the Rangers hit a cold streak people will be calling for him to be signed, claiming that the Rangers can "use what he brings." And clinging to the idea that the only reason he's not playing hockey anymore is because of John Tortorella.
My only regret is....that our coach...was Tortorella!


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03-19-2012, 06:39 PM
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My only regret is....that our coach...was Tortorella!

lol and that the league...blackballed me.

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Mitchell might be the most underrated player at the moment.

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Krieder signed or not, is not going to be the solution coming out of college and never having played a game in a professional league.

No one was brought in during the deadline so this team is staying the course with a build from within concept. Rangers were never supposed to be where they are and just making the playoffs seems to be acceptable to Dolan.

The playoffs are a second season and no matter how much the Rangers can't beat the Devils or how dominant the Pens have been, everyone starts at a fairly even playing, except one game, once the playoffs begin.

Callahan is out and Stepan looks like he's finally run out of Gas. Considering how much he's played since the start of his college season in 2009, WJC, a pro season in the NHL, the WC, excelling everywhere, he's finally hit a wall and I can't complain about that considering what we've gotten out of the 2nd year player. We all knew Bryan Boyle was an over achiever last season and it's showing now. Should he still have netted more than just a paltry 6 goals? Hell yes, where's the Brian Boyle who was driving to the net with the puck off the boards? But more so, what about Brandon Dubinsky? He's failed to step up in the absence of Callahan and quite frankly has failed to step up all season. A few more than 8 tallies should be expected from a player who should have been a lock for 25+. He got benched for taking a stupid penalty and the next game was one of his best all season. This team has plenty of 3rd liners, if that's all Dubinsky is going to be, the Coach needs to let him watch a few from the press box and give him a chance to get his head straight.

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Mitchell might be the most underrated player at the moment.
Mitchell has fewer points then Stralman who's a blueliner and played fewer games. He's not an offensive threat or reliable depth scoring, he's just a tweener who's peaked.

Start rotating players up from Hartford, be it JAM, Wellman, or Chris freakin Newbury IDC but these, now, veterans need to be challenged by younger players hungry to make the NHL. Bring accountability back and go with youth if the Vets aren't going to get it done.

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Krieder signed or not, is not going to be the solution coming out of college and never having played a game in a professional league.

No one was brought in during the deadline so this team is staying the course with a build from within concept. Rangers were never supposed to be where they are and just making the playoffs seems to be acceptable to Dolan.

The playoffs are a second season and no matter how much the Rangers can't beat the Devils or how dominant the Pens have been, everyone starts at a fairly even playing, except one game, once the playoffs begin.

Callahan is out and Stepan looks like he's finally run out of Gas. Considering how much he's played since the start of his college season in 2009, WJC, a pro season in the NHL, the WC, excelling everywhere, he's finally hit a wall and I can't complain about that considering what we've gotten out of the 2nd year player. We all knew Bryan Boyle was an over achiever last season and it's showing now. Should he still have netted more than just a paltry 6 goals? Hell yes, where's the Brian Boyle who was driving to the net with the puck off the boards? But more so, what about Brandon Dubinsky? He's failed to step up in the absence of Callahan and quite frankly has failed to step up all season. A few more than 8 tallies should be expected from a player who should have been a lock for 25+. He got benched for taking a stupid penalty and the next game was one of his best all season. This team has plenty of 3rd liners, if that's all Dubinsky is going to be, the Coach needs to let him watch a few from the press box and give him a chance to get his head straight.



Mitchell has fewer points then Stralman who's a blueliner and played fewer games. He's not an offensive threat or reliable depth scoring, he's just a tweener who's peaked.

Start rotating players up from Hartford, be it JAM, Wellman, or Chris freakin Newbury IDC but these, now, veterans need to be challenged by younger players hungry to make the NHL. Bring accountability back and go with youth if the Vets aren't going to get it done.
Mitchell brings a HARD forecheck. Watch Mitchell more closely and how much ensuing offensive pressure comes because of him being first in on the forecheck and wrecking havoc.

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Krieder signed or not, is not going to be the solution coming out of college and never having played a game in a professional league.

No one was brought in during the deadline so this team is staying the course with a build from within concept. Rangers were never supposed to be where they are and just making the playoffs seems to be acceptable to Dolan.

The playoffs are a second season and no matter how much the Rangers can't beat the Devils or how dominant the Pens have been, everyone starts at a fairly even playing, except one game, once the playoffs begin.

Callahan is out and Stepan looks like he's finally run out of Gas. Considering how much he's played since the start of his college season in 2009, WJC, a pro season in the NHL, the WC, excelling everywhere, he's finally hit a wall and I can't complain about that considering what we've gotten out of the 2nd year player. We all knew Bryan Boyle was an over achiever last season and it's showing now. Should he still have netted more than just a paltry 6 goals? Hell yes, where's the Brian Boyle who was driving to the net with the puck off the boards? But more so, what about Brandon Dubinsky? He's failed to step up in the absence of Callahan and quite frankly has failed to step up all season. A few more than 8 tallies should be expected from a player who should have been a lock for 25+. He got benched for taking a stupid penalty and the next game was one of his best all season. This team has plenty of 3rd liners, if that's all Dubinsky is going to be, the Coach needs to let him watch a few from the press box and give him a chance to get his head straight.



Mitchell has fewer points then Stralman who's a blueliner and played fewer games. He's not an offensive threat or reliable depth scoring, he's just a tweener who's peaked.

Start rotating players up from Hartford, be it JAM, Wellman, or Chris freakin Newbury IDC but these, now, veterans need to be challenged by younger players hungry to make the NHL. Bring accountability back and go with youth if the Vets aren't going to get it done.
Are you stuck in some kind of time funnel? Callahan is out? Stepan's out of gas? How'd they both wind up with two points last night then? Why are you complaining about Dubinsky after he had arguably his best game of the season last night? And what does any of this have to do with Anisimov's injury?

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Mitchell brings a HARD forecheck. Watch Mitchell more closely and how much ensuing offensive pressure comes because of him being first in on the forecheck and wrecking havoc.
Agree with this. He hasn't been putting up points recently because he was playing with plugs like Rupp, Scott, Prust, and Boyle who aren't there for their goal scoring abilities. He was good with Hagelin and is a decent fill-in guy. I'd rather him be a depth guy, but he's not a terrible option. He's also responsible defensively, which is exactly what Torts wants from his players. I don't mind Mitchell at all and think he provides a good level of talent to the roster. He's a more physical and better defensive version of EC, and that's the other reason EC was traded.

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Are you stuck in some kind of time funnel? Callahan is out? Stepan's out of gas? How'd they both wind up with two points last night then? Why are you complaining about Dubinsky after he had arguably his best game of the season last night? And what does any of this have to do with Anisimov's injury?
Anisimov provided secondary scoring. Take him out of the lineup long term and who comes up with his 14 goals this season? Did you read the OP's post? "Who's going to replace AA's offense?" Dubinsky and Fedotenko both have sing digit goals and are at a .12 g/g rate. Sean Avery has done better than that with a .2 g/g average over the 15 games he was here, with limited playing time and he's retired.

So Callahan has BEEN out, is it a coincidence that the team has had its longest losing stretches while their captain and 2nd leading goal scorer has been in and out of the lineup? I think not.

Prior to the game against the Devils, Stepan has had ONE point, an assist, in SIX games. There's a reason why the coaching staff pulled him from the top line and reunited Richards and Gaborik. Since mid February, over a month now, he's had a total of 8pts in 18 games. That includes a little spurt of 5pts in 4 games. The remaining 14 games he's gone scoreless. Find any other 18 game stretch we're his production was so low and you can't. His closest would be at the start of the season when the whole team played poorly for the first 7 games but even then he's in double digit points.

To be clear I don't fault Callahan or Stepan, you can't ask for anymore than what they've given.

Hooray Dubinsky has showed up on the scoresheet again, even played a solid game. So what's that 2 solid games in 2012 where he's put some pucks in? Considering he's got a rate of 1 goal per 10 games in 2012, that's worse then the season average which is just over 1goal per 8 games. Don't hold your breath waiting for another goal Brandon, he's good for about 9 more games. And yes, if he's not producing during that stretch, Bench Him! He can do more.


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Agree with this. He hasn't been putting up points recently because he was playing with plugs like Rupp, Scott, Prust, and Boyle who aren't there for their goal scoring abilities. He was good with Hagelin and is a decent fill-in guy. I'd rather him be a depth guy, but he's not a terrible option. He's also responsible defensively, which is exactly what Torts wants from his players. I don't mind Mitchell at all and think he provides a good level of talent to the roster. He's a more physical and better defensive version of EC, and that's the other reason EC was traded.
Correct, he's a fill-in and a depth guy. The problem is he's been relied on for more than that getting regular play because other players that I've already mentioned, haven't been getting it done. Solid forecheck, smart defensively and offensive production, is this not the same trifecta that Dubinsky brought to the table? It's like a seesaw, further down the lineup Dubinsky goes, the further up the lineup Mitchell goes and vice versa.


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