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01-28-2014, 12:10 AM
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Derick Brassard

Pretty straight forward questions.

Is Derick Brassard available for the right deal?

If so ... what would NY ask for?

What will his next contract look like?

A few notes:
- Currently earning $3.7m with a $3.2m cap hit
- Contract expires in June (RFA)
- This season: 53GP 8-20-28 (-9)
- Career high is 47 points in 2010-11. Projects to about the same this year (40-50)
- 26 years old ... 6'1" ... 202 lbs

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01-28-2014, 12:37 AM
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Pretty straight forward questions.

Is Derick Brassard available for the right deal?

If so ... what would NY ask for?

What will his next contract look like?

A few notes:
- Currently earning $3.7m with a $3.2m cap hit
- Contract expires in June (RFA)
- This season: 53GP 8-20-28 (-9)
- Career high is 47 points in 2010-11. Projects to about the same this year (40-50)
- 26 years old ... 6'1" ... 202 lbs

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The contract is pretty decent. Or, maybe the players earns just a liittle above what he's producing. The stats are fine for a third-liner, but that's the problem - $3.7 for a third-liner is a lot, especially when you're playing in NYR. I'm not sure that they would want to move him though, considering the fact that they have three lines working pretty well atm and wouldn't want to ruin that chemistry going on with Zuc and Brass, but at the same time the Rangers REALLY need a cap dump. The bottom line for me is that Brassard isn't and has never been a bottom six-center, his skills could really be used elsewhere in a team that really needs a solid center for a second line. At the same time, Rangers should be able to find a guy more suitable for a thirdline-role, pretty cheap (or maybe just move Moore or Boyle up). If Brassard would agree on dumping some of his salary in a new contract - which isn't likely considering that he is NOT making sick cash - he would definitely stay. He could be moved for the right price but if I had to make a straight guess my bet is that he will stay for the rest of season and then RFA, don't really see anyone making a bid that would make sense for NYR atm. But yeah, Blackhawks or Ducks should at least be a little bit interested.

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01-28-2014, 04:20 AM
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Pretty straight forward questions.

Is Derick Brassard available for the right deal?

If so ... what would NY ask for?

What will his next contract look like?

A few notes:
- Currently earning $3.7m with a $3.2m cap hit
- Contract expires in June (RFA)
- This season: 53GP 8-20-28 (-9)
- Career high is 47 points in 2010-11. Projects to about the same this year (40-50)
- 26 years old ... 6'1" ... 202 lbs

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Brassard is our 3C but capable of being a serviceable 2C, stuck behind Stepan and Richards with JT Miller a year away from taking over the 3C slot. Our dilemma is buying out Richards do we make brass our 2C or look for one on the market, Rangers lack a top 6 winger to compliment Richards since kreider stepan Nash is locked in as our 1st line. So top 6 winger is a must but a 1 for 1 deal probably wouldn't get us what we need so brassard + for a top 6 LW is ideal

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01-28-2014, 05:20 AM
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Stewart?
if it has to be a LWer, Berglund is pretty good there!? Roy too if you look at a playmaker but he is even more expensive than Brassard.

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Pretty straight forward questions.

Is Derick Brassard available for the right deal?

If so ... what would NY ask for?

What will his next contract look like?

A few notes:
- Currently earning $3.7m with a $3.2m cap hit
- Contract expires in June (RFA)
- This season: 53GP 8-20-28 (-9)
- Career high is 47 points in 2010-11. Projects to about the same this year (40-50)
- 26 years old ... 6'1" ... 202 lbs

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he would be available, but I doubt he is being shopped.

Guys like this bring a better return when you take calls on them as opposed to make calls on them

If you are interested, what would you be willing to offer for his services?

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Stewart?
if it has to be a LWer, Berglund is pretty good there!? Roy too if you look at a playmaker but he is even more expensive than Brassard.
I like Berglund a lot, just don't like his cap hit. Not that Brass' hit is much better, but he does put up more points obviously.

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OP what team are you a fan of?

I'm really on the fence on trading Brassard. He's definitely not out 2c moving forward, but that leaves Stepan-X-Miller-X next year.

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Stepan - Not going anywhere
Richards - Amnesty
Brassard - RFA
Boyle - UFA
Moore - UFA

Brassards value is incredibly high considering how shallow we are up the middle. I created a proposal a few months ago - Brassard and MDZ for a top-6 center. Unless Slats plans on signing a top-6 center, or can obtain one by trading Brassard, I don't see how he can be moved.

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OP what team are you a fan of?

I'm really on the fence on trading Brassard. He's definitely not out 2c moving forward, but that leaves Stepan-X-Miller-X next year.
I agree. I think Brassard's best asset is his chemistry with Zuccarello. If he doesn't ask for crazy money I think he stays. It's the Bozak-Kessel effect but way cheaper. The rare occurance of the winger making his center more valuable to the team. Also as a center, Brassard will always have resale value.

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Most of the above is spot on.

Brassard is a huge gamble.
He demonstrated last year, with Stepan out, that he could spell 1C down the stretch.
That's not questionable in theory, that is a fact of history.

However, he may need to not have pressure over his shoulder and be given 1C for that to happen.
Or as detractors have noted, it could be an aberration.

My opinion is the Rangers will only hurt themselves in the long run by trying a cup run vs the elite of the league when they only have the outside chance of getting lucky. Accordingly everyone not a cornerstone -- McDonagh, Kreider, Hank (and the difficult to replace immediately Talbot) -- should be up for grabs. Some at less, some at fair value, others not going anywhere except for overpayment, in some cases serious.

For this reason I am taking offers on Stepan, just to see what the highest bids are.
To the consternation of several.

In such case Brassard holds the fort.
But even outside this scenario, Brassard is available.

Return would depend upon what you have to offer, ie if any prospects we like you'd part with.

The minimum is probably a #2 pick +.

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Brassard only really makes sense to move if we're packaging him with a prospect and pick for an upgrade. The trade value of Brassard alone is probably less than the value of Brassard to the Rangers, because of the center situation.

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Pretty straight forward questions.

Is Derick Brassard available for the right deal?

If so ... what would NY ask for?

What will his next contract look like?

A few notes:
- Currently earning $3.7m with a $3.2m cap hit
- Contract expires in June (RFA)
- This season: 53GP 8-20-28 (-9)
- Career high is 47 points in 2010-11. Projects to about the same this year (40-50)
- 26 years old ... 6'1" ... 202 lbs

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David Desharnais straight up.

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OP what team are you a fan of?

I'm really on the fence on trading Brassard. He's definitely not out 2c moving forward, but that leaves Stepan-X-Miller-X next year.
Sens. I know they had some interest in the past prior to acquiring Turris. He could still be useful as a winger - but I am more curious about the player in general than wanting Ottawa to get him ... I figure he will want more than his current contract and that may be more than NY are willing to pay.

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David Desharnais straight up.
Someone forgot to use at the end of their post.

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Pretty straight forward questions.

Is Derick Brassard available for the right deal?

If so ... what would NY ask for?

What will his next contract look like?

A few notes:
- Currently earning $3.7m with a $3.2m cap hit
- Contract expires in June (RFA)
- This season: 53GP 8-20-28 (-9)
- Career high is 47 points in 2010-11. Projects to about the same this year (40-50)
- 26 years old ... 6'1" ... 202 lbs

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Holy crap! I thought he was 5'9, 170 the way he plays.

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Holy crap! I thought he was 5'9, 170 the way he plays.
lucy, you just so ridiculous!

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hawks could use him

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I love the dude I refer to as BrassGOD. His creativity and ability to pass are overlooked and under utilized way too often.

I haven't seen a wasted weapon like him since Sandy McCarthy was hotter than hell for a season(01-02?) and given like 10 minutes per game.

Underrated I feel. I don't like em for nothing!

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