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06-20-2017, 10:33 PM
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Trade JVR for a Dman and replace him with Neal?

Maybe Neal was a player Babcock and Lou were looking at too in the Ducks/Preds playoff round
Just unload JVR and leave it a that.

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...but why?

We are loaded with wingers. I just don't see the end goal here. We don't need to unload Lupul either.
Obviously, there have to be more deals. If we just acquire Neal, while not trading a single forward from our team, then yes I can see your concern.

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Neal with Matthews and Nylander would be pretty awesome.
JVR would have been awesome there... but we know what happened there.

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Obviously, there have to be more deals. If we just acquire Neal, while not trading a single forward from our team, then yes I can see your concern.
Of course. I'm just having a hard time seeing the end goal of acquiring Neal unless multiple wingers are going away maybe. I dunno. Sounds like a lot of movement though.

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06-20-2017, 10:35 PM
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Just unload JVR and leave it a that.
What's wrong with acquiring Neal to replace him? Neal with a potential Mathews/Nylander combo would be a dangerous.

Even on a line with Marner would be legit.

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What's wrong with acquiring Neal to replace him? Neal with a potential Mathews/Nylander combo would be a dangerous.

Even on a line with Marner would be legit.
The problem with this is that if JVR wasn't playing with Matthews, you think Neal will? No, he won't.

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JVR would have been awesome there... but we know what happened there.
JVR WAS pretty awesome here. And trading him for an upgrade on defense while replacing him with James NEal just makes us that much better.

Neal has more speed and I'd argue Neal has more skill than JVR too.

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I've been wanting Neal for a while. Loved him when he was with Dallas, Pittsburgh. He's won a cup and I like the toughness he brings.

Good scoring depth.

Adding him will make it more digestible for me to give up Kapanen for a D.

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06-20-2017, 10:40 PM
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The problem with this is that if JVR wasn't playing with Matthews, you think Neal will? No, he won't.
You can't say that with guarnatee. Anything can happen at training camp.

And even if your right, Neal + Methot/Dumba >>> JVR. In terms of players that can help us immediately. Not talking the likes of Kapanen/Rychel/Leipsic

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JVR WAS pretty awesome here. And trading him for an upgrade on defense while replacing him with James NEal just makes us that much better.

Neal has more speed and I'd argue Neal has more skill than JVR too.

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Neal does not have more speed... Pittsburgh and Nashville fans say that skating Ian his biggest weakness...jvr is a good to great skater (when he wants to be).

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...but why?

We are loaded with wingers. I just don't see the end goal here. We don't need to unload Lupul either.
They had Lupul on the cap all year and paid him, so why not use that same money to get a player you can put on the ice?

You can never have too much talent.

Just maybe it drops Hyman down the line-up.

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They had Lupul on the cap all year and paid him, so why not use that same money to get a player you can put on the ice?

You can never have too much talent.

Just maybe it drops Hyman down the line-up.
I'm doubtful that Hyman will drop down in the lineup. Very doubtful.

Either way, we'll see.

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Neal does not have more speed... Pittsburgh and Nashville fans say that skating Ian his biggest weakness...jvr is a good to great skater (when he wants to be).
Compared to JVR? Id def argue he has more speed. I watched all the Nashville Playoff games. JVR is notorious for starting out with speed and then slowing down considerably. He has lazy/stamina problems.

Neal also plays much better team defense. JVR puts little to no effort on the defensive side at all

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