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07-17-2017, 10:26 AM
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Mike Barnett

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Part of it was that Gretzky had a business guy he trusted implicitly and that guy wanted the Blues to pay a huge chunk of money as an upfront bonus. The brilliance of Blues ownership at that time couldn't see anything else and freaked out at the idea that Gretzky could get hurt. They completely ignored how much they would be making in jersey sales, merchandise sales, tickets, concessions, etc. even if he only played half a season due to injury. They were complete idiots who undermined the coaches and GM's the entire time they owned the team.
Would that be Mike Barnett - Gretzky's business guy? If so the two groups St.Louis ownership and Wayne Gretzky would never make a match.

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Would that be Mike Barnett - Gretzky's business guy? If so the two groups St.Louis ownership and Wayne Gretzky would never make a match.
Nope, I wish I could remember his name but it was his business advisor.

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As a good coach but 1 who was a bit hard on his coach and that hurts his all time ranking on the coaches list.

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Nope, I wish I could remember his name but it was his business advisor.
Mike Barnett represented Gretzky thru 2001.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Barnett_(ice_hockey)

Had a habit of leaving the NHL, the team, the NHLPA out of lucrative contracts as often as possible.

Left click on the did you mean.

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Mike Barnett represented Gretzky thru 2001.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Barnett_(ice_hockey)

Had a habit of leaving the NHL, the team, the NHLPA out of lucrative contracts as often as possible.

Left click on the did you mean.
Yes, Barnett was his agent, but this was his business advisor who wanted the majority of the money up front.

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07-18-2017, 10:15 AM
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There was definitely a method to his tactics. Roenick said in his book that Keenan knew he played better when he was fighting the urge to kill him. He also said that Keenan helped him and his wife get through a tough time in their marriage.

Keenan also told his wife that "No matter what I've said to him, I know he's going to be a great player."

Once a year, Keenan would scrimmage with the team and say "ok, here is your chance to take a shot at me."

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Once a year, Keenan would scrimmage with the team and say "ok, here is your chance to take a shot at me."
Mark Howe told that story in his book. Keenan's words were "For all you guys who want to kill me, this is your chance. Just remember that I'm back in charge tomorrow."

That warning didn't scare off the Flyer players. They took runs at him all through the scrimmage. Keenan just picked himself up and kept on playing.

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Mark Howe told that story in his book. Keenan's words were "For all you guys who want to kill me, this is your chance. Just remember that I'm back in charge tomorrow."

That warning didn't scare off the Flyer players. They took runs at him all through the scrimmage. Keenan just picked himself up and kept on playing.
Roenick also said that there were no free shots. Keenan slashed at everyone that got him.

One of Keenan's tactics was to destroy the established leadership that was in place. He did it with Savard in Chicago and Linden in Vancouver. He also pissed off Hull in St. Louis.

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Keenans style?

Run and gun
Army style sergeant
Chew players out
Do extrentric stuff
Never take responsibility for anything

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Keenans style?

Run and gun
Army style sergeant
Chew players out
Do extrentric stuff
Never take responsibility for anything
... yet..... they loved him in the KHL.... after winning Gagarin Cup, Keenan carried around on the players shoulders, tossed in the air..... then afterwards....
singing Karaoke in the dressing room.... ja..... check it out.... http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/ar...p-championship ..... so...... you still think he Bad Maing Hobs?

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... yet..... they loved him in the KHL.... after winning Gagarin Cup, Keenan carried around on the players shoulders, tossed in the air..... then afterwards....
singing Karaoke in the dressing room.... ja..... check it out.... http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/ar...p-championship ..... so...... you still think he Bad Maing Hobs?
Maybe those russians are stalinists?

Maybe he has mellowed a bit?

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Maybe those russians are stalinists?

Maybe he has mellowed a bit?
Could be they were told they'd actually receive the 5 mnths backpay they were owed if they treated Mike nice, hoisted him up like that, pretend for the cameras.... Seems pretty spontaneous & genuine to me though..... As for "mellowing out", yes, I believe he has. Unemployment will do that to a person. Forced introspection. Lots of time to think. In his case no doubt concluding that his Schtick wasnt really all that savvy & productive with players born in the late 60's & 70's let alone the 80's & 90's anymore.

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