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07-20-2017, 09:25 AM
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The bigger problem for Montreal is that both Galchenyuk and Drouin like to control the puck so I doubt they play together. Will they create enough for their linemates to keep teams honest...each is incredibly gifted but teams will adapt if it's always one on one and no diversification. Even gretzky used his team mates

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07-20-2017, 10:41 AM
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The bigger problem for Montreal is that both Galchenyuk and Drouin like to control the puck so I doubt they play together. Will they create enough for their linemates to keep teams honest...each is incredibly gifted but teams will adapt if it's always one on one and no diversification. Even gretzky used his team mates
Galchenyuk is actually much more effective having someone control the puck for him and finding open spots on the ice for one timers. That's how he scored 30 one year, Max basically became his playmaker. He would work very well with Drouin.

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07-20-2017, 12:14 PM
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What does Montreal have that other teams don't have, what's their advantage?
Montreal has 0 elite prospects, and with a #1C the 1st rounders are late picks.

Carolina could put Hanifin+ on the table for #1C. Columbus looks like a serious buyer for #1C.
Tampa Bay does not have 10 million in cap space available to sign Tavares long term. So yes they could spend assets on him at the TD but they won't be able to spend much for a few months of Tavares.

Is Carolina going to give up Hanifin+ to get Tavares for a few months when he could leave.

Columbus could be a serious bidder. But so can Montreal. NYI won't be able to command very much for a guy with an expiring contract. If they can arrange a sign and trade that would be different, but that requires Tavares' cooperation.

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07-20-2017, 12:39 PM
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Montreal can't trade that deal without decimating their own defense in the process, so it's kind of a moot point to start with. Moreover, I doubt any team wants anything to do with the term he has, even if the salary is good.
Hilarious. It's something called cap recapture. If u think weber will play the last 3 seasons for a million per b4 Quebec taxes after earing 107 million your not clued in . Theres one team that will want him badly.

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07-20-2017, 12:56 PM
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webers contract
9 more years at 7.8M for 32y isn't risky?

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Tampa Bay does not have 10 million in cap space available to sign Tavares long term. So yes they could spend assets on him at the TD but they won't be able to spend much for a few months of Tavares.

Is Carolina going to give up Hanifin+ to get Tavares for a few months when he could leave.

Columbus could be a serious bidder. But so can Montreal. NYI won't be able to command very much for a guy with an expiring contract. If they can arrange a sign and trade that would be different, but that requires Tavares' cooperation.
I didn't even mention Tampa.

Carolina will put Hanifin+ on the table if they know they can sign Tavares to longterm deal.
Kekalainen has been aggressive and they have better assets than Montreal, Kekalainen has also good history of making bigger moves.

The price for Tavares wouldn't be normal rental price.

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07-20-2017, 01:14 PM
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9 more years at 7.8M for 32y isn't risky?



I didn't even mention Tampa.

Carolina will put Hanifin+ on the table if they know they can sign Tavares to longterm deal.
Kekalainen has been aggressive and they have better assets than Montreal, Kekalainen has also good history of making bigger moves.

The price for Tavares wouldn't be normal rental price.
Google something called cap recapture

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07-20-2017, 01:32 PM
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Google something called cap recapture
i think NAshville is really praying hard that weber doesnt retire at 36 or 37

it could be deadly for them.


And what is all this talk about Tavares. HE isnt coming to montreal. via trade or Free Agency

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07-20-2017, 02:04 PM
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Google something called cap recapture
I'm really curious to see what will happen with that. My educated guess is that the league will give a free pass to Nashville on that one.

Because it's gonna be real funny if Weber decides to hang them up when he's 39. Anyway, the Habs won't have any trouble with that contract. It's still pretty much OK for a few years.

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07-20-2017, 02:36 PM
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Google something called cap recapture
What does that have to do with today?

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Weber will spontaneously acquire an allergy to his hockey equipment is my guess.

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07-20-2017, 03:11 PM
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I'm really curious to see what will happen with that. My educated guess is that the league will give a free pass to Nashville on that one.

Because it's gonna be real funny if Weber decides to hang them up when he's 39. Anyway, the Habs won't have any trouble with that contract. It's still pretty much OK for a few years.
a free pass ? joking right. there trying to prevent cap circumvention. not encourage it.

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07-20-2017, 03:24 PM
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What does that have to do with today?
well 9 more years at a cap hit of 7.8 would not be risky for a team trying to get to the cap floor. itll be worth millions literally. the last four years his salary is 3-1-1-1 which is a total of 6. his actual cap hit is 7.8 x4 = 31.2 that contract will save some frugal owner 25.2 million. jut not as risky one would think

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07-20-2017, 03:26 PM
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i think NAshville is really praying hard that weber doesnt retire at 36 or 37

it could be deadly for them.


And what is all this talk about Tavares. HE isnt coming to montreal. via trade or Free Agency
you dont think he would like to play in montreal? or he wouldnt be worth it maybe ?

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07-20-2017, 03:43 PM
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well 9 more years at a cap hit of 7.8 would not be risky for a team trying to get to the cap floor. itll be worth millions literally. the last four years his salary is 3-1-1-1 which is a total of 6. his actual cap hit is 7.8 x4 = 31.2 that contract will save some frugal owner 25.2 million. jut not as risky one would think
Dumping contracts costs.

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you dont think he would like to play in montreal? or he wouldnt be worth it maybe ?
I do not see how he does not consider it. Rangers too, lots of places.

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Dumping contracts costs.
Not necessarily. Look at the Datsyuk trade. They knew he was going overseas so nothing had to be paid and no LTIR. That cap hit was gold to a team like Arizona.

So it may cost something because Weber will be owed some type of money, but it won't be much.

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07-20-2017, 05:08 PM
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Dumping contracts costs.
not this one, theres value tied up in it.

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07-20-2017, 05:13 PM
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Not necessarily. Look at the Datsyuk trade. They knew he was going overseas so nothing had to be paid and no LTIR. That cap hit was gold to a team like Arizona.

So it may cost something because Weber will be owed some type of money, but it won't be much.
Datsyuk was a 1 year deal and Arizona is actually trying to build a team today.

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not this one, theres value tied up in it.
They'll just do a favour because Montreal is special?
I highly doubt even teams like Carolina/Arizona will need cap to get to the cap floor.

If a team knows Montreal is trying to get rid of 7.8M cap hit it will cost them.

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