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02-25-2013, 03:22 PM
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Phanuef (Leafs eat a million a year off the contract), Kulemin and a 2nd.

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i have watched several oilers games, they sometimes move Yak even to third line swapping with Hartikainen. They are burying his talent among other their top prospects reducing his value. There is a bunch of teams which can provide Yak 1st line spot, not 3rd!
He's a rookie. Relax.

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I think Yandle makes the most sense.

He's young, he's a top pairing D (though not an elite #1, which Edm wouldnt get for Yakupov), and it fills team needs for both teams while trading from a strength. Phoenix hasnt had any elite dynamic offensive players in a long time, and between OEL, Gormley, Michalek, Rundblad, Murphy, Kesla, etc. Yandle could be moved

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02-25-2013, 04:15 PM
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I was thinking this. I love Nuge so wanna give him to my Sharks? Haha. Seriously we have some good pieces but yeah Yaks is doing ok so I dont see him moving. What does the Oil need for RNH?
Considering RNH is the only top line center we have in our system the price would be far more than Amy team would pay. He's not being moved.

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02-25-2013, 04:29 PM
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Maybe judging Dmen isn't your thing.
So you must not think much of Hjalmarsson if your willing to trade him, but you question my judgement because I don't want him.

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Yakupov+N.Schultz for Yandle and Korpikoski? Close in value?
Brutal, Yandle is not a top pair D, but a excellent 2nd pair. Doesn't help the problem the Oilers are having with their top 6 forwards.

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The Oilers are middle of the pack for goals against.

They are near the bottom of the league of offence.

People need to stop making proposals when they're clearly not watching the team.

The Oilers need to starting scoring a lot more goals, they are average/above average at keeping the puck out of their own net. Trading Yakupov would not be smart.
Problem is the Oilers top 6 is getting pushed around and not getting the job done, Yakupov just compounds the problem.

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As I've said on the Oilers board for the last 2 and a half years. We need a better d if we want to be a high scoring team. Our team is severely disjointed, we have a d built to play shutdown trap hockey and an offence to play run and gun. We have to pick which style we want to play and build our team around that. Right now were trying to play run and gun but due to our inept d we aren't scoring any as defences know they dont have to worry about the points and can cheat low to prevent cross ice passes in the slot.
So what all the commentators saying about the Oilers need to get tough up front is wrong. J.Schultz is a start and Petry should come around and the Oilers have a couple of good PMD coming up, just have to be patient.

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Phanuef (Leafs eat a million a year off the contract), Kulemin and a 2nd.
Saw too much of Phaneuf when he was with Calgary to know the Oilers want no part of him, big pass.

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If the Oilers know what's up they'll trade Hemsky.

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The Oilers are middle of the pack for goals against.

They are near the bottom of the league of offence.

People need to stop making proposals when they're clearly not watching the team.

The Oilers need to starting scoring a lot more goals, they are average/above average at keeping the puck out of their own net. Trading Yakupov would not be smart.
Trading Yakupov for the right return is what's "smart. "

Getting defensemen who can stop the rush and get the puck to those amazing forwards is "smart".

Getting bottom 6 players who know what to do WITHOUT the puck is "smart."

"Smart" is to build a team that wins games. For about 30 minutes in an NHL game, one team is playing without a puck. The Oilers need more than 4 guys on the team who are better without a puck.

You think Phoenix give two ****s how many goals they score? No, they built a team that wins hockey games.

Ottawa won it's last four games with Daniel "40 years old" Alfredsson and Kyle "Edmonton fans think Gagner is better" Turris as their only "legitimate" top-6 players.

Hall, Eberle, Gagner, Hemsky, Horcoff, Nugent-Hopkins, and Paajarvi. There is a combination of those forwards that could lead the league in goals with the right supporting cast, and that group doesn't need to include Yakupov.

Good, young, physical, bottom six guys would help tremendously, and if trading one of the "big guns" for quantity needs to happen, then Edmonton needs to do exactly that.

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02-25-2013, 05:25 PM
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So you must not think much of Hjalmarsson if your willing to trade him, but you question my judgement because I don't want him.



Brutal, Yandle is not a top pair D, but a excellent 2nd pair. Doesn't help the problem the Oilers are having with their top 6 forwards.



Problem is the Oilers top 6 is getting pushed around and not getting the job done, Yakupov just compounds the problem.



So what all the commentators saying about the Oilers need to get tough up front is wrong. J.Schultz is a start and Petry should come around and the Oilers have a couple of good PMD coming up, just have to be patient.



Saw too much of Phaneuf when he was with Calgary to know the Oilers want no part of him, big pass.
Agree to disagree, Korpikoski is the exact type of player we need for the 2nd line LW spot. On top of that we add Yandle who is a top pairing d no matter how much you disagree.

I'd like to see more of this from the Oiler's we'd probably win a lot more games.


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02-25-2013, 05:28 PM
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Brutal, Yandle is not a top pair D, but a excellent 2nd pair. Doesn't help the problem the Oilers are having with their top 6 forwards.
In what world is Keith Yandle not a top pair defenseman? You might want to check Norris voting for the past couple of years before you say such silly things.

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02-25-2013, 05:35 PM
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The Oilers are middle of the pack for goals against.

They are near the bottom of the league of offence.

People need to stop making proposals when they're clearly not watching the team.

The Oilers need to starting scoring a lot more goals, they are average/above average at keeping the puck out of their own net. Trading Yakupov would not be smart.
There is zero even strength offense coming from the D though. I don't need to watch the games to understand the importance of that stat.

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02-25-2013, 05:51 PM
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What about John Carlson?

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I'd consider trading Cowen for Yakupov.

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Considering RNH is the only top line center we have in our system the price would be far more than Amy team would pay. He's not being moved.
Well would a Pavelski+murray do? Haha I will be chastised for offering Pavs + haha. Anymore than that and its a risk. Hes not looking too sexy at the moment.

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I thought about making the offer, but I think we'd be better off keeping Edler.
I know what you are saying but I disagree.

I offer up Edler for Yakupov straight up.

Or I offer Schneider and Ballard

I think the Schneider and Ballard is a very good deal for the Oilers.

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How about Trouba and a second. I'm really high on Trouba!

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How about Trouba and a second overall pick. I'm really high on Trouba!
That's closer...

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That's closer...
Haha., but if you watched the wjc or have followed Trouba, he is going to be a stud. Easily outplayed Jones.

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This value is close Kudos for a non lowball
Yeah the 2 best offers came from the NYI

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Haha., but if you watched the wjc or have followed Trouba, he is going to be a stud. Easily outplayed Jones.
He might be, but if Edmonton is moving Yakupov its for a proven d man. If were trading with Winnipeg I'd expect the guys they'd want to center a deal around would be Buff, Ladd or Enstrom.

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He might be, but if Edmonton is moving Yakupov its for a proven d man. If were trading with Winnipeg I'd expect the guys they'd want to center a deal around would be Buff, Ladd or Enstrom.
Fair enough.

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Marc Staal, Hagelin, St. Croix for Yakupov, N. Schultz/Smid whoever's better.

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Yakupov and Smid for Myers and Armia. Possibly add something medium value quality heading to Edmonton with Myers and Armia, maybe Pysyk.

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Yakupov and Smid for Myers and Armia. Possibly add something medium value quality heading to Edmonton with Myers and Armia, maybe Pysyk.
Take Smid out and its close. Myers isn't progressing like he should.

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