Post Game Talk: Oilers lose 3-2 ...Krueger ecstatic with the one point

[Nacho]

Originally Posted by Replacement

My favorite player in hockey. The all round best player in the world.

wait what? you cant stand Linus Omarks game, yet you like Datsyuks?

[Doppler Drift]

Originally Posted by Nacho

wait what? you cant stand Linus Omarks game, yet you like Datsyuks?

Are you seriously comparing Omark to Datsyuk? Really?

[Fourier]

Originally Posted by Hemsky_83

We're talking about a much more impactful player (top-8 defenseman in the game) than either Hall or Eberle (top-25 at-best forwards).

If OEL is worth 5.5M these guys shouldn't be getting sniffs at 5M on their 2nd contract.

So what would you have said if OEL had wanted a deal like Doughty which if he held out he may well have gotten through an OS. Would that of somehow made Hall and Eberle's deals a smart move?

The deals that Hall and Eberle signed were calculated risks. The Oilers needed a degree of cost certainty with their core, and with the rules under the new CBA beig unknown they may have paid a modest premium to get it.

Would it be better to have Hall on three years at $4.5M followed by 5 years at $7.5M? The Oilers do not need cap space over the next 3 years, they need it when all of the kids start to mature. So under your strategy they will be saving cap space when they don't need it and likely spending more when they do.

[Matt Ryan]

Originally Posted by Nacho

wait what? you cant stand Linus Omarks game, yet you like Datsyuks?

Are your serious?

[Jimmi Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Matt Ryan

Are your serious?

Unfortunately he is, that's the level of delusion we have to deal with around this "player"

[Tad Mikowsky]

Originally Posted by Nacho

wait what? you cant stand Linus Omarks game, yet you like Datsyuks?

The difference:

Datsyuk all star.

Omark. Blows.

[fuswald]

Originally Posted by Tad Mikowsky

The difference:

Datsyuk all star.

Omark. Blows.

Datsyuk is all star, maybe the most useful player in the league.

Omark does not blow. Deserves a cup of coffee or a slice of cake or whatever they (cool ultimate hockey people) call it these days. Not a Datsyuk or even close at this point in his career. Now there seems to be an opening on the top line (if Smyth doesn't mind) who knows what Omark could do.

Post game talk.
Kruger shouldn't have changed the lines which were working. Even if we lost the lines could gel a bit and improve. Was a bad move and should have admitted it in some way.

Petry had one brain fart (Steve Smith Hockey School, how to score an easy goal) and one getting hosed by the best in the league. He'll learn

Ref's made some bad calls and were inconsistent. Hard for young guys to get a handle on what is a penalty.

Dubnyk let in one weak one as per normal.

[oiLowe]

Originally Posted by Nacho

wait what? you cant stand Linus Omarks game, yet you like Datsyuks?

[shizan]

I get the whole try to protect the lead thing but why does he insist on changing lines in the third. I know hes sitting the rookies for defense but its not like hes sitting them to play a guy like Jere Lehtinen or Mike Peca. Is it really much better to sit yakupov to play a washed up ryan smyth?

[Ol' Jase]

Originally Posted by Nacho

wait what? you cant stand Linus Omarks game, yet you like Datsyuks?

Pure, uncut 100% troll.

Post delivers. Would read again.

[joestevens29]

Originally Posted by Hemsky_83

Nope. Skinner, Hall, Eberle, Seguin are all stupidly overpaid. Should be making 4.75M each (tops). It's a damn second contract.

This should mean nothing. Yes it's unfortunate that guys are hitting it big time on 2nd year deals, but I have a hard time saying a player such as Hall doesn't deserve more money than a guy who's been in the league for 10 years simply because of age.

As for this game I had a feeling we'd somehow give up the led, but Petry with two really bad plays that hurt us. Granted the one in OT was against one of the best in the game so can't blame him too much.

[LaGu]

I think we might be moving away from the PGT topic here but I'll throw in my thoughts on the OEL, Hall, Ebs issue anyway.

I have no problem what so ever with the contracts for Hall and Eberle.

With regards to Tavares I would argue that both Hall and Eberle did play better during their first 2 seasons in the NHL. Comparable stats in terms of points total but better in terms of goal scoring. If Hall and Eberle manage to produce the way they did last year I think they are worth their money.

I get the point of paying for the players performance and not his potential but at the same time I think it's a bit naive since you are signing someone up for the next X years. Say what you want but you have to bring in a certain factor of potential right there (in a normal business you generally have a fixed levels of salary increase every year since it is understood that you will get become more valuable with experience).

That said I think that OEL could have held out and gotten more but it seems he wasn't interested in that. The quotes I heard from him after the contract was signed were of relief. He clearly said that he didn't want to be in a situation were the negotiations dragged out and that he had told his agent that he wanted this done fast and that he wanted to stay with his team.