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10-08-2011, 11:19 PM
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Cause we had defensemen and forwards who were willing to lay their body down and block shots (see Michalek, Zbynek; Fiddler, Vernon; Nokelainen, Peteri; Winnik, Daniel). It forces that extra pass that needs to be made. Does Pavelski get a chance at the deflection if someone lays out? Probably not. Sharks would be forced to regroup and move the puck around.
We have 16 blocked shots..

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10-08-2011, 11:20 PM
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10-08-2011, 11:21 PM
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Ok. Now it's just funny.

Poor Boeds is the last of the Mohicans. I'm thinking he's going to be the whipping boy starting game one.
For all the hype about Boeds, I have yet to see any kind of offensive dominance from him. He skates in and one of two things: Shoot once he passes the blue line, always high and in the chest, or he skates towards the corner and then forgets what to do. Not sure how some think he is better, or has earned more than Turris.

We need him to step up big time!

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10-08-2011, 11:21 PM
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Which stat is worse?

38 SOG through 2 periods or 6 goals?

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10-08-2011, 11:22 PM
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I won't panic just yet but this is terriable! the team is not working together at either end of the ice and this game is also making Smith look bad even though it's the team in front of him that isn't in the same class as the sharks. This team has no scoring touch as of yet.

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10-08-2011, 11:23 PM
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Which stat is worse?

38 SOG through 2 periods or 6 goals?
Just remind yourself, we have 284(?) periods of hockey left. Yes I see how that can be both a bad or a good thing, but I'm trying to be positive.

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10-08-2011, 11:24 PM
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Which stat is worse?

38 SOG through 2 periods or 6 goals?
I'm gonna go with 3 Power play goals allowed.

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10-08-2011, 11:24 PM
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Just remind yourself, we have 284(?) periods of hockey left. Yes I see how that can be both a bad or a good thing, but I'm trying to be positive.
Certainly setting the bar low.

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10-08-2011, 11:24 PM
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It will have to be BUX. We have no other options outside of Miele. Sully being a vet will likely get the call first. We simply need to inject offense and skill into this team. I know zz, excellentguesser, devils advocate, and a few others disagree but I'm not sure why.
Don't think they'll call up Miele this season and POS can't play center anymore. Turris won't play this season and Mac was tossed. What we have is it and that's what the current management wanted.

I just hope we don't praise their goalie for out lack of scoring. I freaking hate that. Getting crushed will be blamed on having so many new players. You can book that. No matter that the Sharks have 9 new guys and we were supposed to be better off with so many "experienced" vets.

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Still a lot of hockey to be played in this one, boys. 20min to go.

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The Sharks always destroy us, I'm willing to see how we pan out against other teams.

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10-08-2011, 11:27 PM
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Do you honestly think we are better off now and in the future for keeping the guys we kept over each of those three?
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Maclean is on an NHL team now, not sure if you heard, they actually don't mind offensive players. I have never supported Tik, never will, so not sure what you mean there.

We need an offensively gifted center, Miele is an offensively gifted center... but yeah you're right, good call to send him down so we can move a wing to center, a fourth liner to to third line and fit in chip. Great point zz, I'm enlightened.
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We have no other options outside of Miele. Sully being a vet will likely get the call first. We simply need to inject offense and skill into this team. I know zz, excellentguesser, devils advocate, and a few others disagree but I'm not sure why.
As far as Mc Lean is concerned, all we know is he couldn't crack this awful roster, and Edmonton is giving him a chance. For now, let's leave it at that. Let's see how he does.

Regarding Miele, the pre-season games clearly showed he's not quite ready for the show - yet. Considering how bad things were tonight, would you rather see a dejected Miele losing his first NHL game 6-1 with 0 point, or scoring a goal and an assist helping the Pirates win his first pro game?

Right now, I'm very happy he was sent down to gain confidence. He wouldn't have saved this game, and it wouldn't have helped his development.

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Don't think they'll call up Miele this season and POS can't play center anymore. Turris won't play this season and Mac was tossed. What we have is it and that's what the current management wanted.

I just hope we don't praise their goalie for out lack of scoring. I freaking hate that. Getting crushed will be blamed on having so many new players. You can book that. No matter that the Sharks have 9 new guys and we were supposed to be better off with so many "experienced" vets.
This team is exactly what GMDM and DT wanted. If the season is as poor as many think it will be, the blame falls on them.

Again, this is less than one game. We will make adjustments, we have to.

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10-08-2011, 11:28 PM
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For all the hype about Boeds, I have yet to see any kind of offensive dominance from him. He skates in and one of two things: Shoot once he passes the blue line, always high and in the chest, or he skates towards the corner and then forgets what to do. Not sure how some think he is better, or has earned more than Turris.

We need him to step up big time!
I agree. The funny part is I liked Mueller, Turris, Mac and Tiki better than him and they are all gone. Boeds probably is still here because he's the only one that keeps his mouth shut. Just wish he had something else other than speed.

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10-08-2011, 11:29 PM
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Right now, I'm very happy he was sent down to gain confidence. He wouldn't have saved this game, and it wouldn't have helped his development.
No reason to make the same Turris mistakes on Miele.

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The Coyotes are the OLDEST team in the league. We should at least be good at the defensive side of the game and the PK.


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We have 16 blocked shots..
Sharks are maintaining possession off of a lot of those blocked shots...

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Turris won't play this season
I'll keep believing he'll play until he gets traded. The alternative does not make any sense at all.

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This is obscene. I need a bucket for the third.

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10-08-2011, 11:31 PM
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At least it won't get worse.

I hope it doesn't get worse.

It can't get any worse, right?

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I'll keep believing he'll play until he gets traded. The alternative does not make any sense at all.
Maybe we can get a PK specialist for him.

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10-08-2011, 11:32 PM
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What's the NHL SOG record in regulation since the lockout? We're on pace for 55 shots against, I don't remember ever seeing anything like it.

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10-08-2011, 11:33 PM
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As far as Mc Lean is concerned, all we know is he couldn't crack this awful roster, and Edmonton is giving him a chance. For now, let's leave it at that. Let's see how he does.

Regarding Miele, the pre-season games clearly showed he's not quite ready for the show - yet. Considering how bad things were tonight, would you rather see a dejected Miele losing his first NHL game 6-1 with 0 point, or scoring a goal and an assist helping the Pirates win his first pro game?

Right now, I'm very happy he was sent down to gain confidence. He wouldn't have saved this game, and it wouldn't have helped his development.
I agree with you on Miele. He needs more experience against bigger guys and more time in a pro weight room. I'm not 100% convinced Mac is a better player than anyone we kept. What I'm saying is that giving him a shot instead of losing him for nothing was the wrong decision when considering the **** we have on this roster. The only reason I can see waiving him is because our management didn't want him in the organization. To keep Chipchura over him tells me they though Mac wasn't worth a shot and I just don't see that, especially on a team with next to no offensive talent.

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10-08-2011, 11:35 PM
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As far as Mc Lean is concerned, all we know is he couldn't crack this awful roster, and Edmonton is giving him a chance. For now, let's leave it at that. Let's see how he does.

Regarding Miele, the pre-season games clearly showed he's not quite ready for the show - yet. Considering how bad things were tonight, would you rather see a dejected Miele losing his first NHL game 6-1 with 0 point, or scoring a goal and an assist helping the Pirates win his first pro game?

Right now, I'm very happy he was sent down to gain confidence. He wouldn't have saved this game, and it wouldn't have helped his development.
I'm perfectly fine with leaving the Mac thing alone. However, the problem is that he was let go, and that he was let go for veterans that have proven to be horrible NHL players. I'm not saying Mac would be great, I'm saying he has the potential to be what this team needs and we rid of him too fast. I don't give a **** about Maclean, or what he wants. I wanted to see him get a shot on our team in the NHL to help the Coyotes. If he didn't work out, I would have been fine seeing him go. It was a bad move by GMDM, most people think so, not just me. It is Coyote fans that seem to refuse the thought of questioning our management.

That is a great point. Creating some confidence for the midget is important. But as DT says all the time, we are all about winning, no matter what. If that means bringing up Miele early to see if he can help out the big club, we need to bring him up. If he doesn't pan out, we can send him right back down.

I just don't think we need both Chip and Biz on our roster. They don't make us better. DT needs to be less conservative. I'm not going to demand some massive overhaul, I simply want to see appropriate adjustments.

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10-08-2011, 11:36 PM
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At least it won't get worse.

I hope it doesn't get worse.

It can't get any worse, right?
Haha. Nope. Anything worse just gets us closer to the #1 pick so that's positive. If the team doesn't move that is...

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