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10-09-2011, 10:51 AM
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Why do people keep saying we are only two games in, give him a chance? He's playing just like he did for 82 games last season, he is regressing and he will not be getting better. He's hurting this team and that will not change and now we are stuck with him.
Well Kuba sucked way more last year, and these past two games has been alright, which for him is a big improvement. But since I just jinxed it, that won't be the case anymore.

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10-09-2011, 11:21 AM
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Why do people keep saying we are only two games in, give him a chance? He's playing just like he did for 82 games last season, he is regressing and he will not be getting better. He's hurting this team and that will not change and now we are stuck with him.
He played very well for the last 30-ish games of last season after the team regained some semblance of structure.

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10-09-2011, 11:33 AM
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He played very well for the last 30-ish games of last season after the team regained some semblance of structure.
This. Give Maclean and the forwards some time to get the defensive system and breakouts down, then we'll see improvement on the backend.

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10-09-2011, 11:44 AM
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You may be right, but he got the most heat of all of our defensive squad and was the subject of endless and countless trade speculation.

I don't call that a "free ride".
Wade Redden says hi.

Maybe Phillips and Gonchar need to spend some time in the press box every now and then to calm themselves down and re-focus...

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10-09-2011, 12:36 PM
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Wade Redden says hi.
The "Iceman" Wade Redden?

He was the golden boy for years until his play deteriorated.

Everyone marveled at his ability to transition to the NHL so quickly.

Phillips was the guy whose slapshot always went over the net.


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10-10-2011, 11:33 AM
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Chris Phillips is the epitime of a guy who has become so comfortable here in Ottawa, he and his trophy wife are pillars in the community, unfortunately it dosen't translate well to his on ice performance. This guy has been content his whole career to be a solid NHL player, when he had the ability to be much more, now as he gets older his skills are declining and he dosen't have the tenacity to work twice as hard to keep up. No wonder he refused to be traded last year, he would have to be held accountable for his play in another hockey market, here he gets a free ride, life is good. He owes Murray a big thanks for that ludicrous contract he signed last year.

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10-10-2011, 01:22 PM
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Chris Phillips is the epitime of a guy who has become so comfortable here in Ottawa, he and his trophy wife are pillars in the community, unfortunately it dosen't translate well to his on ice performance. This guy has been content his whole career to be a solid NHL player, when he had the ability to be much more, now as he gets older his skills are declining and he dosen't have the tenacity to work twice as hard to keep up. No wonder he refused to be traded last year, he would have to be held accountable for his play in another hockey market, here he gets a free ride, life is good. He owes Murray a big thanks for that ludicrous contract he signed last year.
I actually got dumber reading this....

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10-10-2011, 01:37 PM
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Chris Phillips is the epitime of a guy who has become so comfortable here in Ottawa, he and his trophy wife are pillars in the community, unfortunately it dosen't translate well to his on ice performance. This guy has been content his whole career to be a solid NHL player, when he had the ability to be much more, now as he gets older his skills are declining and he dosen't have the tenacity to work twice as hard to keep up. No wonder he refused to be traded last year, he would have to be held accountable for his play in another hockey market, here he gets a free ride, life is good. He owes Murray a big thanks for that ludicrous contract he signed last year.

I actually got dumber reading this....
Oh I'm sorry, Phillips is worth every cent of his contract, my apologies. Dude, get your blinders off !!!!!

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10-11-2011, 01:20 PM
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Wtf? Chris Phillips should have been waived or re-signed at 850 000$ maximum... he doesn't deserve to make more money than Matt Carkner!

It's a sacrilege that he basically got the same salary that he had before at 32 y/o. He is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy past his prime... hurrible hurrible

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10-16-2011, 12:47 PM
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Probably Senator for life and he'll slide into the 5 spot next year. He is a leader and has given us a decade of solid play. He's okay - way more than 17 or 55

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Kuba is gone after this year. Gonchar has 2 years and Phillips has 3. I hope they are all gone next year but specifically Gonchar.

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Phillips is a good character guy, he's good in the dressing room, he's good in the community.

Ever think maybe his struggles are linked to playing with young guys and him having to make up for his partners weaknesses?

He was a stalwarth with Atrain for years.

Ottawa is rebuilding from the d position. There will be growning pains.

I have no issues with Phillips and way more with Gonchar.

For his cap hit, I think it's ridiculous to say that Phillips sucks.

I think this thread sucks.

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I actually don't think Phillips is the worst player ever. I think he is one of the Vets we NEED to keep on our D. I am fine with getting rid of Kuba and Gonchar, but I'd like to keep Phillips around.

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10-16-2011, 07:12 PM
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THIS!

Phillips has played the same role, with the same partner, for so many years and done it extremely well.

Since Volchenkov left, Phillips has never had a steady partner, coach or system. He has been matched up with young players that are struggling to find their way and that are just learning what decisions are right and wrong. Different coaches have been thrown at him, each with different systems, in addition to declining skill levels up front on offence.

Phillips deserves more credit than he gets.
I disagree. Everytime I see a bad turnover in our own end, or see a defenceman standing around, or a defenceman miss his assignment it seems number four is never far away. He has never lived up to his first overall draft pick status, much less the salary he makes. I was not happy to see him renewed last year, I thought Murray made a huge mistake.

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I disagree. Everytime I see a bad turnover in our own end, or see a defenceman standing around, or a defenceman miss his assignment it seems number four is never far away. He has never lived up to his first overall draft pick status, much less the salary he makes. I was not happy to see him renewed last year, I thought Murray made a huge mistake.
So much wrong with this post.

The entire D corps is underacheiving this year, how does that translate to Phillips is near every mistake?

The 96 draft was weak, and Phillips was mismanaged on top of that (he played F his first season here). Comparing him to stronger draft classes with HHoF defencemen is quite frankly unfair to him.

He makes $3M. That's what, 1/20th of the salary cap? It's not a lot of money, especially considering he hasn't been as bad as you claim (ie responsible for every defensive mistake we make).

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I waited for a time where there is no game going on to bring this up but what would you guys think about removing the "A" from Phillips?

For three seasons he's talked about leadership but he's one of the players actually falling behind. Gone are the days of hermetic defense, he's frequently making basic mistakes in his own zone and hasn't gotten any better at moving the puck.

Guy is an artifact of better days, not an example or a leader. I'd much rather see Neil, Karlsson or Michalek with that letter. Guys that are still relevant and making a difference.

( I don't care to trade him or calling out bmurr cuz he signed him, just purely talking about the "A". Because of the circumstances I don't even care if he's on the team or not.)

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I disagree. Everytime I see a bad turnover in our own end, or see a defenceman standing around, or a defenceman miss his assignment it seems number four is never far away. He has never lived up to his first overall draft pick status, much less the salary he makes. I was not happy to see him renewed last year, I thought Murray made a huge mistake.
I couldn't agree more. I don't think Phillips was that that great in his prime so it's no surprise that at at age 32 he has become a very marginal NHLer. Bryan Murray has an unfortunate history of overpaying for defensemen at the tail end of their careers...Gonchar, Phillips, Kuba, Jason Smith, Luke Richardson (Richardson did come cheap but he had nothing left). Phillips has his supporters but I don't understand how anyone can defend his play the last couple of years. He's a turnover machine with minimal skills or intensity.

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I miss me some Philchenkov
Same. I loved watching them play. Watching them stop people was just as good as seeing a goal scored.

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