Good pickup...very deep at D and I figure that Gauthier was the best Dman to trade. Flames are picking up someone who is naturally more gifted offensively than Conroy. I think Langkow will fit in very nicely. (Throwing in Saprykin might have been excessive).
Regehr - Leopold
Lydman - Warrener
Ference - Commodore/Phaneuf
Not bad... Although another top6 forward would make them look better, but it doesnt always have to look good to be good
edit: Ill add in Reinprecht since i forgot him
i put rhino on the first line, i saw he could pay wing, so why not make the first line a good one. Nilson on the 2nd line then that moved kobasew to the 4th line since the 3rd line to me looked like a grinding one. I really hope calgary doesnt put kobasew on the 4th line, i definitly think this kid could break out this season
Last edited by zetterberg40: 08-27-2004 at 12:03 PM.
Ya i love all the new additions to calgary
new calgary team = another cup run??
gotta make the playoffs 1st. IMO this will be a real tough year for a repeat, the ducks will bounce back so will the stars, and the expansion teams like minn, mash, columbus, should all come into their own as legitimate (somewhat) playoff threats. Same goes in the east with ATL, FLA, MTL, Buff, getting better and better. The playoffs will be tough to make for lots of teams.
I like that pick-up BTW now if only Reinprect could stay injury free and flourish
Wow! Great trade for CGY. We all expected Gauthier to go, but losing Saprykin is a bit of a surprise. I was liking Oleg more and more, appreciating his vigorous play, especially around the net as he was turning into a real fast skating, hard working pest. The one drawback was that his high-energy play wasn't always the smart play or didn't display a high degree of on-ice vision, and thus alot of wild shots at the net from bad angles (some of which went in, mind you), and some high-tempo solid hits that would take him out of position (although he took Chelios out at a key time in the playoffs). I hope he does well in PHX (and they find a place for him in the lineup), as he really showed a good developing character in CGY.
But getting Langkow, I think is a real steal for a 5/6 dman and an unproven skater. CGY gets a much needed hard-working centerman (Sutter style?). The one drawback is that I think his faceoff percentage was much lower than Conroy's, despite the number of faceoffs he did take. I think Conroy was in the 55 to 58 range over the last couple of seasons, and Langkow is about 47 percent. But CGY has Yelle for those key defensive zone faceoffs. I think Langkow is an excellent replacement for Conroy.
But where does that leave the lines for this season? Does Reinprecht stay with Iginla, or does Langkow take that spot? I don't really know, as Reinprecht hasn't had proven time on the top line either! I think I'd tend to leave Reinprecht up there, and use Langkow as a hard-working example for the youngsters Lombardi or Kobasew on the second line.
Niemenin, Nilson and Donovan are solid on the third line, but the rest of the lines can be mixed up alot, I think there are alot of line combos possible now with good versatile, high-energy players in all positions. Simon and Wiemer can fit on the top two lines if needed as quality players who double as enforcers, Gelinas can play anywhere as a substitute in for the youngsters Lombardi and Kobasew. Yelle is a key centerman, especially on special teams.
I like the mix, it seems to be a solidly designed group of players, but would still like to see a 2nd quality scoring line -- those youngsters Lombardi and Kobasew need to step up and fill that role, and I think with Langkow and Reinprecht playing, it looks good for them to have that chance. Just thinking that Lombardi could still play center, with Reinprecht going to the wing on the 2nd line???
Here's hoping there is a season so we can see how it all pans out.
But where does that leave the lines for this season?
In much shape than having Krivokrasov-Shantz-Bure as the top line. This is a high class problem, and it allows for lots of different options/combinations, while having adequate depth to fill spots for injuries. The best part is that quite a few can play at C or W. Here's an early prediction that the Flames will not tank, like Carolina or Anaheim, much to the chagrin of some other HF board members.
Langkow is most definitely a "Sutter style" player. I wouldn't have any worries about that. He works harder than just about anybody. He was easily the hardest worker for the Coyotes (him and Doan both).
He can play on the PP, PK, he can do a little of everything. Good skater, decent on face offs, can score garbage goals in front of the net, he will hit, defend teammates, block shots, etc. You name it, he can do it.
Great trade for both teams. What makes this better for us is the fact that edmonton lost nedved although it's indirect.
I read an article which may explain the Flames' success. It was about an analysis of performance and it showed that employees that do a job well on a consistent basis are much more advantageous than employees that complete their tasks in a stellar manner, the difference is consistency. I would bet that this is why Saprykin was traded. Down the stretch Sutter did get off Saprykin's case in the papers but what he said during trainning camp forces me to conclude this.
You guys are really lucky to get a guy like Langkow in your lineup. He will give his all every night and plays like he is bigger than he really is, very underated A total Sutter type of player and still will put up good numbers. As a coyotes fan he will be missed. I'm very confident he will become a fan favorite in Calgary. Good luck Langkow!
Chris Simon is way to slow to be a top line player he should be used on the pp to stand infront of the net that is all.
Wrong on the first part, right in the second part. Simon creates space for the more skilled players, and will take some of the heat off Iginla. Why should he should only bang in rebounds on the PP? Nothing would stop him from doing the same during 5 on 5. When he was first acquired, there were several posts on this board suggesting that he was nothing more than an expensive enforcer. Yours truly told them to watch how he'll make room for Conny & Iggy and chip in some garbage goals.